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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,745 Championing

    HhHhhhhh wet myself

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,649 Championing

    I think I know the history of my country better.

    honeyhoney, I look forward to learning from you both!

    😊

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,745 Championing

    OK sorry albus delete my comment it was funny though

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 9,376 Scope Online Community Coordinator
    edited March 28


    The American system is very convoluted, with a tonne of checks and balances, many of which I still don't fully understand. 😆

    Shutdowns happen when funding legislation required to finance the federal government, is not enacted before the next fiscal year begins. So basically they have two weeks to get the current funding situation sorted out, or there's going to be a shutdown. This is being taken advantage of by the president, to try and push through legislation he wants into law. But some Democrats are now pushing back.

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,008 Championing

    The New York Times is reporting that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer has decided to support the Republican led government funding bill to avoid a government shutdown.

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 9,376 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    I just saw that @MW123 I'm guessing certain Democrats really aren't happy right now. They seem quite divided over this.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 872 Empowering

    Then you certainly know about the Polish intervention in Russia and the occupation of Moscow by the Poles between 1610 and 1612, as well as about the Partitions of Poland and Congress Poland as part of the Russian Empire. You should also know that the Russian Empire and the USSR built industry in Poland.
    Approximately the same way as the Austro-Hungarian Empire built industry in Bohemia and Moravia (now the Czech Republic).

    All this only confirms what I said, that the countries of Eastern Europe have been fighting each other for centuries.

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,008 Championing

    Chuck Schumer's decision to support the bill has sparked frustration among some Democrats, who feel it undermines their leverage. The party is clearly grappling with how to balance principle with pragmatism. Tensions are running high! My late mother's sister married a GI and became a war bride, so I have four American cousins who keep me updated as we regularly stay in touch via Skype.

  • honeyhoney
    honeyhoney Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering
    edited March 14

    Yes, I know...

    I think you know what the "Battle of Warsaw" aka "Miracle on the Vistula" in 1920 was?

    Do you also know what happened in Poland in Poznań in 1956, in Gdańsk in 1970 and 1989? and on 13.12.1981?

    Getting back to the point, the statement that "Poland is part of the Russian Empire" is inadequate and misleading.

    Being under the occupation of the "empire" and being part of it is a significant difference, don't you think?

    and if the Polish people had not stood up against the Russian empire in 1989, you and your country would still be part of it and you would still be watching The UK on TV.

    P.S

    Poland was NEVER a Russian republic, i.e. part of the USSR, unlike the Baltic countries such as Estonia, which you probably come from, so please stick to the facts.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 872 Empowering

    https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odzyskanie_niepodleg%C5%82o%C5%9Bci_przez_Polsk%C4%99_w_1918_roku
    3 marca – Rosja Radziecka na mocy traktatu brzeskiego uznała niepodległość Polski[4]
    29 sierpnia – Rosja Radziecka dekretem swojego rządu, czyli Rady Komisarzy Ludowych, anulowała traktaty dotyczące rozbiorów Polski, a tym samym, jako drugi kraj na świecie (po Stanach Zjednoczonych) uznawała prawo narodu polskiego do niepodległości i zjednoczenia[5][6]
    7 października – ogłoszenie niepodległości Polski przez Radę Regencyjną[7]

    I wonder why Poland itself did not declare its independence on 29.08.1918, when the Russians themselves recognized Poland's independence? Why did they wait more than a month?

    Let me note that in 1920, 1956, 1970, 1981 and 1989 the Russian Empire definitely no longer existed.

    The tragedy of Poland is that it has been used by powerful states for their own interests continuously for almost three hundred years.

    By assuming that I am from Estonia you only confirm how deep the hatred is between the peoples of Eastern Europe. Sad(.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,490 Championing

    March 3 – Soviet Russia recognises Polish independence under the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk

    August 29 – Soviet Russia by decree of its government, the Council of People's Commissars, annulls the treaties concerning the partitions of Poland, and thus becomes the second country in the world (after the United States) to recognise the right of the Polish nation to independence and unification.

    October 7 – declaration of Polish independence by the Regency Council

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 713 Empowering

    @egister omg unbelievable 😳.

  • honeyhoney
    honeyhoney Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering
    edited March 15

    Please, don't quote Wikipedia here and don't tell me that I hate someone.

    For me, ONLY A PERSON matters, regardless of where they live, where they come from, what their religion is or the color of their skin.

    It seems that you still don't understand your "fox pas" you wrote that Poland IS part of the Russian empire, not that Poland WAS part of that empire.

    If you write in English on an English-language forum, such a "mistake" completely changes the context of the statement and leads to false conclusions.

    P.S

    You above wrote:

    "Let me note that in 1920, 1956, 1970, 1981 and 1989 the Russian Empire definitely no longer existed."

    However, in an earlier post you write:

    "In Western Ukraine, which Stalin took from Poland in 1939 (Poland is part of the Russian Empire)"

    so it would be necessary to specify what you mean by writing "Russian Empire", Russia before or after the October Revolution in 1917 ?

  • egister
    egister Posts: 872 Empowering

    There is no trick - the Russian Empire has not existed since the widely known date.
    Also, don't forget about
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Sejm

    Silent Sejm (Polish: Sejm Niemy; Lithuanian: Nebylusis seimas), also known as the Mute Sejm, is the name given to the session of the Sejm parliament of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth of 1 February 1717 held in Warsaw.[1] A civil war in the Commonwealth was used by the Russian Tsar Peter the Great as an opportunity to intervene as a mediator. It marked the end of Augustus II of Poland's attempts to create an absolute monarchy in Poland, and the beginning of the Russian Empire's increasing influence and control over the Commonwealth.

  • honeyhoney
    honeyhoney Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering
    edited March 16

    With all due respect, I see that we do not understand each other. I know history and I do not want to rewrite it.

    What irritated me was your statement: 

    "In Western Ukraine, which Stalin took from Poland in 1939 (Poland is part of the Russian Empire)"

    and it should be that:

    "In Western Ukraine, which Stalin took from Poland in 1939 (Poland was part of the Russian Empire from 1772 until 1918)"

    … do you see the difference for someone who does not need to know the history of Eastern Europe and reads your post?

    … it is similar to the phrase "Polish death camps" often used in the West to describe the concentration camps established by the Germans in occupied Poland during World War II.

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 1,694 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi all. Please can we keep this respectful to one another. We all have different experiences and opinions. We're all on the same team - sometimes it's best to agree to disagree. 🙂

  • egister
    egister Posts: 872 Empowering

    I have listed the Russian Empire and Soviet Ukraine in one post. The names clearly indicate historical periods.
    About Polish death camps

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camps_for_Russian_prisoners_and_internees_in_Poland_%281919%E2%80%931924%29

  • honeyhoney
    honeyhoney Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering

    Sorry but I don't intend to discuss with you any more.

    To be precise I mentioned the incorrect phrase "Polish death camps" describing Nazi concentration camps in Poland in the context of World War II, which as you probably know took place in 1939-1945 and not the period you are talking about.

    Anyway, end of topic from my side.

    Have a nice day.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,490 Championing