Reclaiming PIP

Sandra600

Hello everyone, I have just joined the forum.

I tried to claim PIP a few years ago on my own and got 0 points. I have decided to claim again with the help of a disability advice centre. They have just phoned me and said that it was not worth claiming again as I have no new diagnosis. I thought it was worth it as the DWP ignored some of the information I put on my form. I have fibromyalgia, me/cfs, oesteoarthritis anxiety, ibs, chronic migraine, dysphagia and a few other things. Has anyone gone from 0 points on their first claim to an award on their second claim? Thanks

poppy123456

A diagnosis makes no difference anyway because it’s not about a diagnosis.

Starting a new claim using the same evidence you previously used could see another refusal. If this happens you should challenge the decision by first requesting the MR and then Tribunal if needed.

Many people that are refused go onto be awarded at Tribunal stage.

If you do decide to reapply when filling out the forms please make sure you include a couple of real world examples of exactly what happened the last time you attempted each descriptor that applies to you.

Include information such as where you were, what exactly happened, did anyone see it and what the consequences were.

They very rarely contact anyone for any evidence so if you have additional evidence to support your claim you should send that with your form.

AKR

That advice isn't very helpful or accurate and I would give them a wide berth.

The fact you don't have any "new" diagnoses is irrelevant. It's about the impact your conditions have on your daily living activities/mobility - and you are the best judge of that.

There are plenty of people who have not been given points and then succeeded in tribunal. But again, that isn't relevant to you or your decision to make a new claim.

You should certainly make a new claim if you want to - there is nothing preventing you from so doing.

However, you should ensure you read the guidance on the descriptors/precisely what they mean and how they are interpreted - read it several times, and refer to it as you are drafting your answers.

You should also take your time to collate any relevant medical records/other relevant information and to prepare your PIP application with relevant detail/examples of how you are impacted/any aids you need or use etc, again with specific reference to the descriptors.

It may have been the case you got zero points last time because your answers weren't tailored properly to the descriptors and/or were too generic, because it does seem peculiar that with the sorts of symptoms associated with your conditions you got zero points last time.

Take your time over it before sending the claim in.

poppy123456

Have a read of this before deciding whether to go ahead and start a new claim.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/personal-independence-payment-assessment-guide-for-assessment-providers/pip-assessment-guide-part-2-the-assessment-criteria#daily-living-activities

Sandra600

Thank you I appreciate your replies.

Rachel_Scope

Hi @Sandra600 and welcome to the community.

You've already been given some great advice by our members but just wanted to add that I went from 0 points to being awarded PIP after going to tribunal.

Sandra600

Thank you that’s good to know, I’m glad you got it eventually.

DmRitchie

As others have said, I went from 0 on application, 0 on MR, got 2 points in the submission DWP made to the tribunal. 18 months later award standard on both parts at start of the tribunal.

Sandra600

Thanks good to know