Shocking
Watching morning News really touches your heart listening to viewers suffering with no winter fuel payment ! Awful I know people say give labour a chance today will tell us all we need to know I reckon hardly any of the labour goes against starmer !! So if this is voted in to go ahead god help us seems labour doesn't care or listen
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It has been voted on and will be going ahead @Catherine21
348 to 228 majority of 120.
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I watched it absolutely sickening how they pushed it through so quickly vile so angry for the people who are just over by 8 pound feel to cry for our older generation they are evil god help us all Shame on them I understand if people are well off yes rightly so but 8 to 20 pound appalling so when it comes to changing welfare benefits will they just push it through as quickly I think this is a very sad day I really do feel emotional the thought of millions going cold hurts my heart
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The problem is that Labour has too big a majority now in parliament.
They can probably do almost anything they want now. At least we know now what they're prepared to do.
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All the things I used to believe about labour has died we're in a war with these inhumane characters especially starmer noting is for the people noting sick of hearing black hole it's a cull really don't want 30th to come around I dread what thier going to say absolutely dread no one to help the vulnerable no one
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Can they push welfare reforms through so quickly like they have this ? Absolutely vile poor poor people find it so so upsetting
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People on here have said it'll be a lot harder to push welfare reforms through.
Plus I think they'll also go through to the house of lords as well.
It's still a worrying time though.
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I know this is giving them power to keep pushing ahead certainly unsettling and so upsetting this is why they want to get out of house of lords
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Yes all on pension credit comes into immediate effect wonder what starmer will say or do to 53 mps that voted no to cuts excuse writing
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Some people missed out by 20p over 8 pound over sad day today really sad day imagining millions elderly cold and suffering no justice totally understand some people really don't need I fear this is just the beginning as we already been warned
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Since the new state pension system was introduced in 2017, the full state pension 2024-2025 has been set at £221.20 per week. This amount creates difficulties for many pensioners trying to qualify for pension credit. To be eligible, a single person’s weekly income must not exceed £218.15, and for couples, it must be below £332.95. As a result, many pensioners receiving the full state pension of £221.20 find their income just above the threshold, disqualifying them from pension credit support.
This situation is especially harsh for those without private pensions. Many older workers were led to believe that their national insurance contributions would guarantee a comfortable retirement. In the past, private pensions were largely inaccessible to most people, unless they were employed by the government, local authorities or the NHS, where they were provided as an additional benefit. Given the low wages many people earned in the past, investing in a private pension was often financially impossible unless their employer offered it.
With workplace pensions only becoming mandatory in 2012, countless retirees now rely solely on the state pension of £221.20 per week, a sum that falls far short of covering their financial needs and provides no additional support. Consequently, many pensioners are now compelled to seek work, if their health permits, just to make ends meet. The true character of a country is revealed by how it cares for its elderly, children, and most vulnerable.
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This has broke my heart unbelievably cruel for those missing out by pounds the tories didn't even do this I keep saying this it a sad sad day for the uk
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And our elderly
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POSSIBLE TRIGGER WARNING AS MY POST IS ABOUT ANGELVERSARIES AND DYING*
Im just glad that my late nanna (my late dad's late mum) is no longer with us as she passed away 32 years ago today as she wouldn't be happy about this apology for a government are doing other pensioners.
I know my late great-aunt wouldn't have put up with it either as she helped my mum get her kitchen floor repaired by going straight to the MP for Warrington at the time Doug Hoyle and telling him about the council's appalling behaviour and and the length of time they were taking to repair the kitchen floor, which had a huge hole in it and my mum was having to cook meals for herself, me, my middle sister and our dad on a camping stove.
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Those was the days when council would decorate for disabled elderly do gardens collect rubbish really cared ! By Christmas everyone will be talking about something else noting will be spoken of how many elderly passed away from the Cold absolutely soul destroying being disabled we know what it's like to be treated like noting ah god forgive them cant stop crying for them the worry they are going through some lost partners no family God this is so wrong
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I don't personally think that's the problem. The problem is the party whip system, the MPs being frightened of not backing the government. All the same a valiant 53 abstained. Can't help wondering what the result of a free vote would have been.
"Backbench rebellions damage perceptions of party discipline. The prime minister has demanded loyalty. By removing the whip from Labour MPs who rebelled in July over benefits, his message was that party unity trumps moral and political considerations. This is unsustainable when promoting policies that are disliked not only by swathes of the party membership but much of the electorate too. The prime minister claims that his government is “going to have to be unpopular” to deliver change. The question is whether the change he has in mind is for the worse rather than the better."
And today:
They have lost a lot of people over this.
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Its shocking truly unnerving
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What do you mean by they lost a lot of people over this I don't understand politics
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When I was a very young lad in the late 50's early 60's our school would raise food hampers for local elderly people at Xmas, some of whom were in abject poverty; being cold and having little to eat was commonplace. One of my tasks was to deliver the hampers and I remember very clearly, even though it was almost 60 years ago, a couple bursting into tears on their doorstep when I handed over the hamper. It upset me greatly and when I went to bed that night and no-one could see me I had to have a good cry to get it out of my system. It upsets me now to see people struggling and worrying, so I am wondering what has changed throughout all these years? It is true that the poverty of the 50's and 60's no longer exists but people still find it hard to make ends meet and it simply isn't fair that if you have a few pennies over the state pension you don't get the winter fuel allowance. There should be some sort of financial buffer zone. I am not at all concerned about wealthy pensioners; they can afford to pay their bills. I am concerned for those pensioners who are just a little over the limit, for whom large winter bills may be difficult to pay.
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Same I think people used to care was more of a community slowly over the years we have been divided elderly used to have clubs get picked up and dropped home by arranged transport have a nice meal and company most of that had funding cut alot of people can't go on Internet so really cut off from society this has to be ome of the lowest actions I've seen to date soul destroying to think our elderly community will suffer so terribly they won't complain of the era pay all bills on time and suffer in silence we must all check our neighbours OK at all times
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@Catherine21 sorry, I meant that a two-month old Labour government would usually have so many friends, so much encouragement and support for its first actions, and so many people have walked away, for a start the Guardian and for seconds loads of Labour people, on Twitter, who've mailed their MPs and said this isn't what they voted for
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