Obesity

Catherine21
Catherine21 Posts: 4,342 Championing
edited October 2024 in Everyday life

Watching news and kier starver saying offering jabs for obesity to get people to get back to work I wonder if thier offer brain surgery for mental health problems maybe a lobotomy?

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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,342 Championing

    I understand for some people who might want this

  • vikingqueen
    vikingqueen Scope Member Posts: 1,767 Championing

    Is it not a good idea? It will help not only with peoples health but it will be less strain on the NHS. How this equates to mental health I've no idea…

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 9,142 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    From how Labour were talking before the elections, their whole plan is to help people back into work, but ultimately focusing on preventative measures. So better NHS services, access to decent mental health support.

    So offering to help with obesity seems to be running along those original lines as it'll prevent those people needing to use more NHS resources with obesity related illnesses. Personally I see it as a positive thing.

    With regard to mental health, again, I expect it'll be more about preventing people from having a mental health crisis in the first place, by offering support and making sure employers aren't working people into the ground. I'm guessing here of course.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,342 Championing

    Ah that sounds better than my mind working overtime thankyou

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,488 Championing

    Hi Cathrine21

    Its not something the government can force people into but as you say some people will want to have it done. X

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,342 Championing

    I don't trust them whats actually in the jab a

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,488 Championing

    Me neither but if people decide to have them its their choice.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,342 Championing

    HhHhhhh I'd gladly have a lobotomy ! Give myself a break

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,342 Championing

    Oh irn Bru haven't had that in years so popular in Scotland

  • OneSunnyDay1
    OneSunnyDay1 Online Community Member Posts: 47 Connected

    Hi

    Obesity and mental health are two different things, although one could affect the other. I have been saying for years and I empathic towards many people, but why give people with an eating, drug or alcohol problem money so they can continue harm themself and feed their addiction?

    If there is help for obesity that's GREAT NEWS, especially if it can give someone their life back! It would also be great if there was help more help for people with mental health needs that would also be great as it would also help people with addiction issues! Most people want to be well and to have their life back.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,342 Championing

    So they profit from the rollout of the jabs people with diabetes will notice shortages and the next thing will be offering euthanasia to people happening in Canada already I didn't have covid jabs I won't even have flu jabs do not trust goverment

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,342 Championing

    Did you see post about Stephen timms saying thier not going to put pip as vouchers it's on here

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 9,142 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    One of the drugs in question is Mounjaro I believe? Which is very popular with the weight loss community. Though it's also used by some diabetics, so I'm hoping they'll be able to keep stocks up. And like any medication, it comes with its own risks. But I still see this as a positive step toward taking some strain off the NHS. Focusing on preventative medicine seems like the smart move.

  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,717 Championing

    For many people the obesity can be a compounding issue. It is often comorbid with clinical depression, other mental health conditions and physical conditions. I don't think anyone is suggesting that there are not other conditions that will also need to be treated properly for many. If the government can at least help people who do have obesity with this medication, putting aside if you agree with the effectiveness of it or not, it means one less condition they are having to be concerned about and deal with.

    I don't think anybody considers this a magic bullet that will resolve all situations for anyone who is obese, but there are many people who would be greatly helped by treating their obesity.

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,347 Championing

    I've lost 2 stone this year, People can and will do what they can when they can.

    I comfort ate for years because of clinical depression and hating myself and my life.

    I decided to get some grip on myself and it wasn't easy, I asked for no help,got no help and have done it in my time on my terms.

    some people can't that's ok, what is NOT ok for governments to interfere because of their greed and personal motives while bluffing it's for the person when all they are interested in is chucking someone else off the books.

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,347 Championing
    edited October 2024

    💛💜 thanks I need to shift another 3 stone.

    no not easy but if I slip on a day I go hard next day to get back on track calorie control mainly no exercise involved either as my physical health doesn't allow me that so it is possible. jabs indeed stupid government.

    on prednisolone ATM which always sets me back but need it a couple of times a year or My knees won't let me walk at all!

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,347 Championing

    thanks 💜

    it's good IF the patient wants it, it's the governments vile motives and interference I object to.

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    Albus_Scope Posts: 9,142 Scope Online Community Coordinator

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  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 9,142 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Folks, can we please nip this in the bud now? I am asking very nicely.

  • Luna51
    Luna51 Online Community Member Posts: 297 Empowering

    Weight loss is contentious issue, but everyone's opinion here is a valid one

    As a bigger person, I've struggled with my weight my whole life, I've tried many diets, loss lots of weight and then just put it all back on again.

    I'm my experience there is usually a reason behind a person's overeating, poor self esteem, trauma, depression etc, etc and until we get to the bottom of why we do it and break those bad habits, nothing will work. My worry is that these injections cannot go on indefinitely can they?What happens after someone comes off of them? will they just go back to old habits? it's all a lot more complex than just giving someone a course of injections and then simply leaving them to it..

    I hope the Government have a long term plan in place to keep on supporting those who choose to take up such an offer, I think it needs a holistic approach to truly work.