Obesity

thanks again 💛💜

The idea of therapy for weight loss would a great option, not everyone wants medication, just some help to understand why some folk do overeat and what can be done to support them and understand how to break the cycle of overeating.

Plus, let's not forget it can also be down to economics, as cheaper food can often be the least healthy, people who cannot work don't have endless funds (and I know people who do work often don't either!) to buy good quality, healthy food.

Yes, it is complex and as you said, very different for everyone.

Having read through this thread, I'd say from a medical point of view that the goal of obesity management is to improve health.

As far as Covid & flu vaccines go, they're offered to those whom the medical community has identified as benefitting from them, which guides the govt of the day. I see the govt's handbook on this was last revised last month as far as Covid-19 goes:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/66e7fbf624c4f1826d81bb32/Greenbook-chapter-14a-20240916.pdf Vaccines on the whole are really safe; very rare (here in the UK reported as 15 people in a million) occurrences of a serious side effect occurred with one of the Covid-19 vaccines, AstraZeneca, which is no longer offered.

I hope we can therefore have confidence in such vaccines. Looking at both sides of things we did see instances of some of our members following a Covid vaccination suffering from shoulder injury related to vaccine administration (SIRVA). This is due to the vaccine being incorrectly being administered into the shoulder joint rather than into the deltoid muscle. Historically this had happened with other vaccines, so was nothing new with the Covid-19 vaccine.

Apologies for digressing, but anyone offered Covid-19 & other vaccines should have confidence in them; they reduce serious side-effects & the risk of hospitalisation.

I don't think anyone would be against those needing GLP-1 RAs for their usual medical indication, but then this thread went on to discuss 'obesity' in general, at least so it seemed to me. I don't think anyone was being adversarial, so appreciate their discomfort.

I'm also one for a person being able to access any care that helps their well-being, & remain open to discussing this. Altho exercise can help with weight loss, this is often difficult for a considered 'overweight' person who happens to be disabled.

As @Luna51 identifies, & from what I remember reading some time ago, it can be difficult to reduce weight, as it seems a person may yo-yo back & forth from a certain weight, which seems to often be the normal way of things. Also I'm wholly with the holistic way of looking at things; you simply can't separate the mind & body, so the whole person needs support. The number of times I'd wished I could have a rheumatologist, neurologist, neurosurgeon & geneticist all in one room going over my problems, & that's just looking at the physical side of things!

All of our problems, both physical & mental, & both equally important, are what unites us as a disabled community.

Been typing this for a while & just saw your query about the BMJ paper @vikki66 - like yourself I can only see the abstract (don't think we have any Drs here), but did find this on the govt website:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mhra-approves-glp-1-receptor-agonist-semaglutide-to-reduce-risk-of-serious-heart-problems-in-obese-or-overweight-adults

Hi @vikki66 - I was purely concerned at Catherine21 being scared about vaccines as not trusting the govt., & wanted to assure anyone later reading this post as to their safety. Perhaps re-read what I said.

I'm certainly not a fan of big pharma either, oh nothing to do with the money they'll make! I'm not in the least disagreeing with your comment about this.

Sorry, can't help your viewpoint & how you feel about this forum…I have faith in it otherwise I wouldn't be part of it. I would certainly categorically say that the vast majority of members are supportive, helpful & don't have any ill intent whatsoever.

I'm concerned about everyone's well being, otherwise I wouldn't have commented. The one thing I do know a little about is some medical stuff.

Members will disagree with one another, which is par for the course. What we hopefully shouldn't do is an ad hominem attack, rather disagree with a member's comments; sometimes not tagging a person can also be seen as being 'passive aggresive.' Sometimes however an ad hominem attack can be justified; I do honestly try to look at both sides of everything.

We're not always going to think the same, but why do you feel we're not unified in trying to help each other?

Sorry, as I've previously said, that I offended you. You're not saying why has left me feeling like I shouldn't be here, when I truly want to be, as Scope matters to me. Others feel the same (not about your comments); that's where there are sometimes difficulties when members feel they need take a break they don't necessarily want; adverse comments can, & do, drive some members away. We should perhaps be always mindful about how we comment.