Job coaches for mentally ill in hospital settings - BBC
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Ok thank you for the feedback @Nightcity .
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That's a very silly comment. It reminds me of the turnabout rubbish that the MAGA people are spouting in the US. Hard right indeed, that's Reform not Labour!
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The evidence has been online for years. Most people chose not to listen.
Yes, Stellar. Most people still aren't listening or reading the evidence. Some people here think Stephen Timms is a very nice man ๐คฃ
Labour has just published the DWP reports written in 2014 which the Tories sat on in order to roll out the second national reassessment programme. Has anybody had a look since they were mentioned in another thread recently?
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I agree with you there @Biblioklept
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MissMel,
Job centres have used Disability Employment Advisors (DEA's) for years. I know this because I was first referred to one in 2008.
They have harassed, bullied, abused me and acted unlawfully in my case since 2006. None of this is new. People simply didn't pay attention to what was legislated for by the Welfare Reform and Work Act 2016 which ensured it would get even worse for disabled claimants.
So they have no skills or empathy which would help anyone in a mental health hospital. Patients are already offered and encouraged to engage in occupational therapy but this idea of turning us all into 'disabled job-seekers' was written into the UC Programme.
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I'm going to put this to the assembly now and see what there thoughts are.
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following on from this we think it's a bad idea for work coaches to be in mental hospitals. However this could be on the discharge pathways when they are getting discharged depending on condition and must be person centred.
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What does it state in the uc pls yh makes sense what your saying is there anything we can do ?
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Back in the day when I use to sign on, they were responsible for helping the disabled get into work and all disabled claimants were under them and they had more sympathy than the generic work coaches we are all thrust upon these days. Yes, they too were nasty bullies but not of the scale of the present day work coaches.
Yes, even after all my years challenging mandatory appointments and repeat referrals to Work Programme (3!), this new generation shocked me.
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Catherine, only if enough other people scrutinise the (disastrous) Incapacity Benefit migration to ESA and the 2016 reforms will we understand what's happening through UC migration.
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No I think this is unacceptable noting will end up person centred it will end up applying to everyone not a fair system as it is I don't know anymore it seems everyone with MH thier targeting if they go to psychiatric wards there is no hope for anyone who suffers at home
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Their logic is to help those claimants suffering at home by "inviting" them into the job centre and making referrals for even more support! If you're agoraphobic, this is their answer ๐๏ธ
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I remember seeing her in parliament one time (i think it was when Reeves announced winter fuel cut), and the expression on her face was just...off. I can't explain it, but I just found her really unsettling. And it seems like I had good reason to.
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Ah this is why all rushed get certain amount off by time scales in future there will be alot of people taking them to court but that doesn't help in the long run seems to be targeting all MH cases i did read article of a guy who is deaf they didnt put reasonable adjustments for years they did this he took them to court and won 50 thousand whats happening with ECHR investigation??? Look up a lady ellen clifford she was taking tories to judical court over wca changes i wonder if she still will when labour do the same
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Because labour will definitely do the same they want most off by 2028 2029
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Have you emailed them won't make any difference will it
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I think they will start 2025 with wca I
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@WhatThe I had a nicely lady disability employment advisor and she was really nice as she asked me what I preferred to be called and I'd told her and she'd started calling me by my preferred name. She explained everything to me so that I could understand what she was saying.
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That was my experience at my first appointment in 2008, exactly as you describe. She explained it was voluntary and support was available when I was in a better state of health.
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These projects are currently being piloted in Leicester and at the Maudsley Hospital in Camberwell, located in south-east London. Below is a link from the South London and Maudsley NHS website that may be useful for your assembly. I believe presenting this information will provide a more balanced perspective.
Additionally, under the "Information for Carers" section, it is clearly stated that Work Well services are voluntary and that referrals are only accepted from individuals who seek assistance in finding or maintaining employment.
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