Labour are following through with Tory plans in regards of reforming the WCA

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  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Community member Posts: 2,413 Championing

    already sent 8

    local mp

    GP

    Timms

    Kendall

    Quality Care commission

    ECHR

    Ed Davey

    Carla Denyer

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community member, Scope Member Posts: 2,362 Championing

    Ellen Clifford of DPAC (Disabled People Against Cuts) sadly didn't entirely grasp the 2016 reforms. I know that because we spoke once by telephone.

    The UN reported their concerns in 2015/2016 of the potential "human catastrophe" if those proposals went ahead.

    The current investigation is ongoing. No idea when it will report. I don't want to research it but anyone can.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,435 Championing

    Oh right so it's all been covered in 2016 ? Meaning it will be non void yes still ongoing I mean whats the most they can do if they find them guilty

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community member, Scope Member Posts: 2,362 Championing

    No, I mean they warned us then.. We were kept distracted by the 2016 referendum, general elections and more.

    My understanding is some but not all past Secretaries of State will be called to give evidence but prosecution is unlikely.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,435 Championing
  • Meg24
    Meg24 Community member Posts: 362 Trailblazing

    There is a judicial review in the pipeline regarding the WCA changes, but it seems to hinge on the allegation that the white paper was not sufficiently clear, not on the changes themselves. I think we would have to rely on the ECHR for that, probably why the Tories were so keen to get beyond their grasp.

    Don't get me wrong, I know that things could change, but as they stand, the WCA IS being changed, and Labour have not yet come up with an alternative to the one that's already in the plans.

    It's not possible not to worry about this when you might be the one targetted, believe me I try, every flippin day. The days I don't post on here are the days I manage to put it on hold, when I've no defenses and the worry is so bad it's making me feel like the end is coming, then I try to fight back.

    It might seem like I'm giving up, or giving in to catastrophising, but actually what I'm doing is trying to do something constructive. If I don't, then I have nowhere to take it, and then I'm doomed.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,435 Championing

    Yes I noticed that saying not enough times to respond ect what if we all hundreds of us emailed same message flood them letting them know I'm sure in a couple of years they will be taken to court by people I'm hoping but for us the damage will be done no I thought had see you post for a while we have been left in limbo for such a long time no wonder we crack I'm like you have 2 bedroom house my two dogs who I would never be parted from I always give homeless people money as I always the fear is there that could be me I have a daughter but she has her own life own worries no family to help sorry going on is there anything we can do I'm not clued up on politics all I know is thier evil god survived tories but this is all pre planned and uk been sold out anyway that's another story the less you know the better your not giving up your realistic but I'm trying find plan B impossible

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community member, Scope Member Posts: 2,362 Championing
    edited October 19

    I began emailing MP's and ministers in 2015 to stop these reforms going ahead. I also phoned every charity and campaign group going. I'm still waiting for everyone to catch up with what happened then but I'm encouraged that we've started!

    I have 7 letters from my then MP full of nonsense about the ESA regulations. I have a handwritten letter from a Conservative Secretary of State repeating the lie and one from the shadow minister, Stephen Timms pretending not to know the rules he signed off in March 2008.

  • Razr
    Razr Community member Posts: 122 Empowering

    They could save billions if they addressed the problem of people who scam benefits, but it seems that it is too hard for our peers to do

    Seems they just want the ones that are vulnerable and are truly entitled to what the benefits were built for in the first place to stick their heads between their knees and kiss their XXX goodbye

    It is a dog-eat-dog system, not what it was intended for in the first place and it was supposed to address and help the people in need

    I feel they are pushing us to our limits and then see what the outcome is,

    They like putting plaster on wounds that have not been treated

    Try playing DayZ MP's

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,435 Championing

    Wow must be so frustrating for you knowing what's going on and the rest of us blind till now that's amazing what your doing what can we do to help get on board one person alone can't do it so Mr timms did what pretend he didn't know yh can imagine thier all the same I thought he was going to save us and I certainly don't buy the BS saying he got vouchers stopped that's a distraction deal with wca and then mention one main health benefit pip non means tested literally only someone in a coma will recieve just get a big factory stick us all in there work for pennies at least we know we will get some job come on we know they know No jobs for us I hope this gets thorn Down ripped to shreds that's when we ALL email fight back not swallowing thier vomit WE all need to fight for our lives

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Community member, Scope Member Posts: 2,362 Championing
    edited October 19

    Catherine, when I realised they expected me to give up because of the substantial risk of harm to myself and others, I knew I couldn't. I knew the suicidal ideation wasn't normal but that I'd survived each time. My concern was that other people might not have reached such lows so often to know recovery is possible. I also knew that my daughter would never understand the documents and administration I was dealing with to hold anyone to account. She's the same age as yours.The bereaved families from the first failed reassessment programme are why I'm still here.

    My subsequent autism diagnosis allowed me to believe what I'd read despite what was being reported by the media and despite my MP's denials.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,435 Championing

    What can we all do ? Just read a lady had housing benefit suspended because she drew out cash and wanted to know what cash withdrawal for ffs everyday i up for doing whatever it takes just don't know how to start

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,435 Championing

    And definitely being autistic makes you see things other people can't

  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Community member Posts: 190 Empowering

    One thing that concerns me, is that if my monthly payment for UC is £809, I live in a care home on respite until a supported living flat becomes free and it is mostly paid for by Durham County Council, but I pay £626.776 towards it as a contribution. I am on LCWRA, so if this is stopped, I won't be able to afford it.

    It's got me worried.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,435 Championing

    I don't know what your disabilities are it's looking like it's mostly for mental health so I'm thinking if yours is physical you may not be affected these are my thoughts only

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,435 Championing

    Ps if I'm not being nosey my dad lives in flat in a care home setting he pays 235 towards his rent rest council pays thats alot of rent for you to pay on your own

  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Community member Posts: 190 Empowering

    It's a bit of both. I have cerebral palsy, but i have anxiety and depression as well.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 2,435 Championing

    Cerebral palsy is very debilitating mind and body nervous system affects most body parts ? I'm no expert I did read it wasn't for physical disabilities as much but mental health problems