Help evidence

chiarieds

''There should be a burden of proof tied to such a claim - be it clinical or otherwise.''

Why? There's incredibly /almost negligent fraudulent benefit claims. We had a former member who is a Welfare Rights Officer who helps people with their benefit claims who gave exactly the same advice as poppy; I think he should know.

I've never known a single member of this forum that wasn't completely honest & just needed some appropriate help & advice. I appreciate that not all members will be able to complete some forms as well as they think…..this is what this forum's about in trying to help.

I don't think speculating about rumours is helpful; they're just rumours so far as you intimate. Of course there's only a limited amount of monies available for this, or any other govt, so we will all have to wait & see what's actually said in the budget.

JonnycJonny

I am not questioning anyone's honesty here. I have even repeated Poppy"s suggestion of providing non-clinical evidence - if you care to read my contributions.

I would merely say it is not very helpful to keep stating on this Forum that evidence is not needed when submitting claims for PIP or ESA. It is not empowering - it is giving false hope to many in desperate need.

If all claimants failed to offer proof of ill health / disability ( a Fit Note ) or an inability to carry out a certain activity ( say, for arguments sake, an OT or PT report ) but nonetheless went on to receive benefits, would the social security system be trusted ?

Best wishes

poppy123456

Midali said they didn't have any extra evidence to send. I advised them that evidence isn't needed, which is correct. I also advised them they could write a diary or ask someone that knows them well to write a supporting letter. All of which is evidence.

It's a well known fact that not everyone has evidence to send to support their claim. Your own anecdotal evidence, real world examples is all you need to prove beyond doubt how your conditions affect you because you are the only person that knows exactly how you're affected.

A fit note isn't evidence.

JonnycJonny

I agreed some lines ago that evidence need not be clinical.

Curiously, Fit Notes are proof enough to start a claim.

My point is all about burden of proof and due diligence and how it may be lacking in the current system.

Best wishes Poppy and keep up the good work.

chiarieds

Sorry, appreciate you're certainly not questioning anyone's honesty. I am stuggling with you saying that in some way that a lack of evidence, by which I assume you mean medical evidence, could be giving false hope to our members.

Yes, in all instances if a claimant unfairly received a benefit, then these things could, & should be questioned, but, our members are just asking if they need medical proof, that's all? The simple answer is they don't.

middali

I have not lied about anything, all I was wondering was if it was too late to send evidence as I sent my form back 5 weeks ago and was waiting on a doctor to get back to me, in which they will this coming week. That’s all I was asking

poppy123456

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/931506#Comment_931506

I did advise in my first comment that it was ok to send evidence but you shouldn't pay for it.

Catherine21

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/930814#Comment_930814

You can ask doctors or hospitals request SARS form can go back years its your doctor notes or hospital it'sfree