The official 2024 budget discussion.
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Press is no more than manufactured consent . It's one big club of billionaires or wealfhy Corporations who have no need for wealfare because they don't need or use it.
It's our money our National Contributions people need to remember that when dealing with vast Corporations buying political influence. Their motto is all for myself nothing for the people.
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I think they have said they want to adopt Rishi Sunaks plan to remove three key descriptors that allow you to claim WCA..mobility incontinence and if the job is dangerous to the individual.
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I thought they want to remove substantial risk ?
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I'm so far more impressed by the young royals like Prince William who has been working hard to try and end homelessness or at least make a dent in it.
Of course governments could have done all this like in Finland but their policies have never been 'people friendly'.
At this stage anyone who rolls up their sleeves and uses their positions to actually clear up and help the citizens is fine by me ♥
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Yes I think it's same as what Tom said substantial risk??
WWhich is just great isn't it a big f u
To those who may harm themselves or others . This needs to be nipped in bud ASAP
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That plans will see me screwed, will it be for new claimers or existing claims, I don't know what they expect me to do, currently in the support group for ESA, just filled in ESA50 so waiting on a reassessment, I have Severe anxiety disorder, and severe IBS , which means I struggle to leave my home, so there get me on job seekers with no really chance of be working, to hounded by a work coach, but I have not doubt, my doctor will give me fit notes, but the dwp will save 400 pounds a month, and leave me in poverty, with no positive outlook , so anxious, does anyone know when we will anymore news ?
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It's not a done deal yet we have to wait for the challenge in Court and liz kendalls White Paper.
Hopefully they will not go along with those changes to WCA under the Tories. Sir Stephen timms has hinted nothing as per usual. Trying to get blood out of a stone in regards to clarity .
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If they were to follow it it would be for new claims and those who have reassessments
This the OBR reckons would disqualify 420,000 and save 1.3 billion over a four year period
There is nothing in rachael reeves budget to confirm it as she just said "we will deliver those savings" without elaborating how and Sir Stephen Timms has said something vague like we may have our own approach.
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I read that these changes will be for new claims..I have also read that it'll be important once they have rules in place not to then get reassessed or they may withdraw the support...so likely you're OK for now but just don't report extra changes if they give you the maximum..don't rock the boat keep your head low...if cynical I think they just will look for any excuse tge cut
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It's true but an activist said change of circumstances if you move home.
Which is why it needs a good challenge because it's so ridiculous honestly paying Mps to come up with how to take away a welfare system.
Do the people have any idea what it was like in this Country before the creation of welfare. Do7btful and it was faught for tories didn't want it
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Problem is I recently sent of my ESA 50, and due to back log ,god knows when I have a assessment, also on my different ish note, I ask my doctor for a letter about my condition, witch be put on a fit note, as he said a letter would cost money, so I send that of as evidence, as saying my condition not going to get better, I saw somewhere on here if you send a fit note, that will trigger them to start asking for them, is this true ? It's all very confusing, I haven't been assessed for ESA for over 10 years
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Just read your post, about sending Esa50 back. I sent mine back in January still not heard anything. Still getting payment. I rang dwp, automatic message that if you sent back Esa50 they will contact you
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Did you migrate over to UC or something because if so you don't need a reassessment or fit notes.
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No on old style ESA and a ESA 50 out of the blue
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Hope all goes well for you 🙏
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I still don't get what the hell moving home has to do with lcwra or a UC50 or why a reassement would be needed if no changes whatsoever in health have occurred.
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I really don't get it all. So a court challenge 10th - 11th Dec but it say's online it could be weeks after that for a verdict.
If (can) Liz Kendall bring out a white paper before that (doesn't anyone know when is said?). If it is different to Tory proposals does that make the court case null and void?
If it was disagreed with would another court case have to be initiated?
I presume nothing can be made law with an outstanding court case.
So I will just keep worrying then. This has been hanging over us all a year now.
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Just wow the DWP don't follow any rules claimants however ...lifted this of B & W site
ESA to UC mandatory migration FAQ update
Published: 05 November 2024
Benefits and Work is still hearing from employment and support allowance (ESA) claimants who are unlawfully being treated as jobseekers when they begin the universal credit (UC) mandatory migration process. Some are being asked for fit notes and some in the support group are also being required to agree to claimant commitments that go far beyond just an undertaking to inform the DWP of any change of circumstances.
The DWP claimed to have fixed this problem, but it is clearly still happening. At the moment the numbers being migrated are small, but the point where upwards of 10,000 ESA claimants a week begin to be migrated cannot be far off.
We have updated our ESA to UC Managed Migration FAQs to help members deal with this issue.
We have created a short notice for you to put in your journal at the start of your claim, pointing out that you must not be required to provide fit notes.
And if this doesn’t work, or if you are already past that stage, we have written a formal complaint you can adapt to your circumstances.
We have thrown the kitchen sink at this complaint, because it is vital that the DWP follow the law in the way they treat ESA claimants, many of whom will struggle with the migration process.
We’ve included references to UC Regs 2013, UC Regs 2014, advice for decision makers, the UC claim To Do List and an admission by the director general of the UC team that getting this wrong is severely detrimental to ESA claimants’ health.
It is an admission that may well leave the DWP open to actions for personal injury.
In addition, we explain how to use the claimant commitment cooling-off period to buy yourself more time, though be prepared for your work coach to have never heard of it and to have to give them information about how to find it.
And we stress the importance of accepting even an unfair or unlawful claimant commitment, because refusal will simply lead to your UC claim being completely disallowed.
Instead, we point out that even DWP guidance says that accepting a claimant commitment doesn’t mean that you actually agree with the requirements or that you are committing yourself to carrying them out.
Far better to accept, if you must, and then fight to have the commitment changed afterwards. Even if you fail to carry out an action that falls within your claimant commitment, the result will be a sanction which you can appeal, rather than the total loss of your UC claim.
We know that for many people, battles like this are beyond their physical and mental resources. Which is why we are urging those who are able to do so, to involve their MP in any complaint they make, so the DWP cannot keep making these mistakes behind closed doors.
And please keep on letting us know how your mandatory migration is going and we will keep trying to come up with solutions to any problems.
Members can download the latest ESA to UC Managed Migration FAQs from the ESA/UC guides page. The relevant FAQs are:
“Will I have to provide a fit note or prove I am unfit for work if I am moving to UC from ESA?”
“I’m in the support group, but I’ve been asked to provide a fit note and/or to accept a claimant commitment with work-related activities.”
“Can I delay accepting my claimant commitment?”
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I would imagine the judge can legally impose a pause on the whole thing until the decision.
as for her silly white paper I'm sure it will take ages especially with constant backlash already and questions constantly arising over legalities of this and that. hopefully she'll get told to use it to wipe her backside which is likely all the use it'll serve.
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On 13th liz kendell doing a talk all I know it's 9.30 and don't know what channel maybe can Google it
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