How many of us are scared of the dwp?
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Yes, I know that, but my point was that it SHOULD have been a transfer over for people with permanent, unchanging and lifelong conditions. They had all the information available to them already.
What they actually did was ignore all my evidence, then rejected me for not having support for a disability/condition that I never claimed I had, while ignoring all the statements from the specialist mentor I did have, and those I made on my form and in my assessment, about how my disability affected me.I think that could have been avoided. Not just for me but for thousands of us and the tax payer's purse.
On the just use the phone and call the DWP comment, that's great if you can use the phone. Using the phone is one of my difficulties so my family have to deal with it for me. It took so long to get them to talk to my mother not me because they insisted on making me confirm every time despite the fact we followed instructions and wrote them a letter naming my mother as my phone advocate for reasons of disability.0 -
It is important to remember that there are millions of people who interact with the DWP with zero issues. I think the reason the fear is so high is a mix of how the DWP has treated some people and the very direct effect that has on your life.
Some of the ways it works does sometimes seem like it's just something done to be more difficult to access. Like the PIP section of the DWP only really having a telephone number to contact, while other parts of the DWP you can also email or message on your journal.
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But it wasn't because it was a totally new benefit. That's why they did it so we didn't just tranfer over. The idea was to make it harder to get PIP and save money.
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Again, I know that. I'm saying what they should have done, morally and common sensibly, for the benefit of both claimants and the tax-payer, not what they actually did or why :) I went through the whole process. I 100% understand what its purpose was and did when they first announced it, long before I was called up to apply for it.
I think it's clear they haven't saved money, and are wasting more because of forcing people to tribunals unnecessarily. I often wonder what could have been saved by leaving everyone on DLA.
I have seen comments online, including here, about perfectly normal interactions with the DWP. I have never met anyone in real life who has had a positive experience. When I was at university, my mentor said she had several other students who were too frightened to appeal. I'm autistic, though, and I think that this area is particularly hard to get positive outcomes the first time around. I know it's not impossible but it does depend in some ways on what the DWP perceives disability to be, and how well the assessors and decision makers are trained in specific disabilities.
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oh I haven’t been on here in ages, did Calcotti pass ? Was this recent ? I remember reading some of their posts and they were so helpful. :(
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Calcotti had some serious health conditions and their diagnosis was end of life treatment due to terminal cancer, sadly. He hasn't posted on here for more than a year. The last time I had contact with him things were not good. It's incredibly sad, he was such a lovely person.
Lovely to see you posting too!
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oh that’s really sad :( .
Thank you Poppy, I had to take a break coz MH got really bad .
I’m glad you’re still giving all your amazing advice and knowledge, you’re a god send for us. X
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I found this comment online and had to come here and comment. I am desperate for help and I don't feel that I get it because people don't understand the needs I have. I had a very good career despite having a mental health condition which i managed most of my adulthood. Eventually it became too much and I had a complete episode or breakdown and had to leave. Not long after my sickness allowance ran out the DWP ATOS put me through the most horrendous time of my life humiliating me and sending me to court and I still have nightmares that has impacted my health dreadfully and has meant every time I try to get well I haven't been able to because their approach is one size fits all with unqualified staff. I have been OFSTEDed 6 times and that was stressful but not even close to this - it's destroyed by life and that is not an exageration. I went through the ESA to UC and they got things wrong at every single stage of the process. Which has made my condition worse, mobility, hair falling out and I class myself as a strong person. I now see that they have probably got my benefit incorrect again and I have had enough of life. I cant take anymore physical and mental injury that it gives me. I am not sure anyone gets it. I wish someone could help but I dont think there is anyone out there
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I am not scared of the DWP
I have had some issues with outsourced assessors in the past blatantly lying.
I am more concerned about the potential government reforms that are due to be announced later this month.
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Yes my hair been falling out sores on face it was October 2023 sunak tool me down with his speech horrendous time then I found scope who have given such good advice and more understanding of the procedures I needed in hospital hospital said allergy doctor said stress I cannot give anymore power to DWP it will finish us off I'm trying to lose the fear and not engage with thier nasty BS to keep people in constant state of terror I'm like you really strong but yes they brought me to my knees I sent my pip form in July and I wrote in the form the assessments have given me ptsd and wrote don't lie and also wrote they do not follow equality act I go through all diffrent emotions I'm so sorry you gone through this let's try to lose the fear once lose it life easier they don't want the best for working class people we have to want best for ourselves and have amazing charities fighting for us we not alone one-day at a time do things that bring you pleasure don't let them ruin your peace of mind I have my days but they can do one xx
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I am sorry to hear it's affected you too. I don't give them power but I won't apply for PIP even though I need it as I go to pieces every time I speak to someone because they are all generally the same. Everything gets messed up. or I am humiliated in front of others. I would like someone to talk to them for me but I have no one who understands what they are saying and can deal with them.
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Thank you @Albus_Scope I didn't know about that. I have seen that the daily chat for YOUGOV is running a poll today on cuts to disability benefits and if anyone is reading this should think about heading there if they want a say.
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Yeah and the answers / response I have seen on there so far is abysmal, they all hate the unemployed and disabled.
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What's YOUGOV what are they saying people so brainwashed by years of government media bashing of disabled refugees and elderly when the real problem is the government hoarding all the wealth we all deserve to live a peaceful life but people to blind always thinking someone has more than others sad really
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@Catherine21 It looked more positive when I looked at it. People usually bash those who don't work when they are miserable with their own lives. The more unhappy and poor people are the more they take it out on the vulnerable I find.
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I agree we all been divided even dehumanised by government for years I wish people would wake up
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@Catherine21 It's because they can't take money to reduce the National bill from the powerful as the powerful then remove money from the economy. So they start with those with little power because they can. Plus the prejudice against ill people is never discussed because nudge units want to shift the focus away from helping the ill and poor and onto other groups so society doesn't is socially conditioned not to notice and /or speak out. I had a lot of training on Equality and Inclusion and DEI training has very little to do with disabled in the past 10 years at least and this should be priority.
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How are people going to explain to a potential new employer why they've not worked for xx years.
If you haven't worked for say five years the world has changed so much in that time, that you won't have the skills to function.
It's all online these days.
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