How many of us are scared of the dwp?

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  • Kittylees53
    Kittylees53 Online Community Member Posts: 12 Listener

    Apologies I meant Enhanced on Daily Living only and my new conditions where affecting my mobility

  • michael57
    michael57 Online Community Member Posts: 1,410 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,523 Championing

    Me to I'm worried deprivation of assessts now and before that ic and before that I write to Stephen timms I thought I'd get arrested I hate this part of me but DWP is the only thing that has ne on my knees

  • griff62
    griff62 Online Community Member Posts: 19 Listener

    whistles

    I was terrified about moving from working tax to universal credit. I was on £22 a month on wt so thought I would get zilch on uc. How wrong was i? From £22 to £370 a month. I wish I’d done it sooner but I waited until they migrated me. I can finally afford my bills & weekly shop now.

  • JW77
    JW77 Online Community Member Posts: 184 Empowering

    Scared of the DWP - no, disgusted by the department yes.
    But have I had anxiety through the roof, suicidal thoughts, feelings of worthlessness, being a fraud, & being in some very dark places when filling in my earlier PIP form. then yes.

    I now don't do any forms/paperwork etc directed to the DPW without support and seeking advice/advocacy.

  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,717 Championing

    Some people have been made better off with Universal Credit, some have unfortunately also been made worse off. I think the goal of simplifying the benefits system is an important one as often it's the complexity that means people miss out on what they are eligible for, or don't even know if they are eligible for anything at all. But it certainly could have been done better…

  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Online Community Member Posts: 314 Empowering

    UC is built on coercion and threats. Someone could be sanctioned for being late to an appointment, even though sometimes it's through no fault of their own.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,523 Championing

    Spot on light been sent to The gallows impending doom

  • whistles
    whistles Online Community Member Posts: 2,046 Championing

    When I lost the daily living and sdp, nobody suggested I apply for uc with the lcwra element. Maybe it didn't exist five years ago.

    It will simplify the system, but I still haven't grasped why uc is involved with the rent. That's going to impact how much the council gets to spend surely?

  • malvinmulch
    malvinmulch Online Community Member Posts: 68 Empowering

    DANGER - LCWRA WILL erode your transitional protection and in my case left me £200 a month worse off than if I had not claimed LCWRA (my wife and I are each others carers)

  • JF7891
    JF7891 Scope Member Posts: 130 Empowering
    edited November 2024

    I think you are confusing contributory with income-based ESA and LCWRA, after the credits run out, you'll get income-related i.e. means tested, and all is a mute point on both ends, as everyone will be on UC soon. I agree with scope's guidance and stance in applying sooner than later, at this moment in time its all easily done online when done voluntarily, albeit with one hiccup of having to tell them a couple of times that I was already approved for support group and that nothing changed. And then it was a smooth transition.

    However it is obviously not enough money at all. But really the crux of the matter is that shrinkflation and inflation we are squeezed into at the same time. Any healthy food has now quadrupled in price, literally. Hence we depend on cheaper fast food and we overrun the ailing NHS.

    I think all of us vulnerable people and minorities shouldn't just complain to the government and press them for money, the money would come naturally if the bloody corrupt industry watchdogs if we demand it and the word gets out e.g. with the water companies, and fashion as well as food companies etc. get held accountable. The companies are taking the government hostage, especially in the last 2 decades of austerity, and promise new investment and more money and jobs for people, which never happened (see stagnating GDP growth). These promises were never fulfilled, in fact these new 'mafias' are just squeezing even more out of the system and our benefits. These watchdogs have become a farse, they were all employed by the corrupt tory government from the last 14 years, just like with trump and his cronies in the supreme court judges of the USA, and need replacing with sharp-toothed bulldogs that go after these rampant economic criminals.

  • Dendoo
    Dendoo Online Community Member Posts: 225 Empowering
  • whistles
    whistles Online Community Member Posts: 2,046 Championing

    The tp gets eroded so you are left with the amount, it shouldn't be less than when you applied.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,523 Championing

    I Just can't get my head around this do you get less over time

  • JF7891
    JF7891 Scope Member Posts: 130 Empowering

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/transitional-protection-if-you-receive-a-migration-notice-letter

    "Changes that can decrease your transitional protection payments 

    Your transitional protection payments can decrease over time following a change in your circumstances. Changes can include:

    • having a child
    • starting to care for a child or disabled person
    • an increase in housing costs (rent)
    • a worsening health condition
    • changes to government benefit rates

    This is because these changes are likely to increase your Universal Credit amount."

    "How your Universal Credit entitlement affects your transitional protection payments

    If your Universal Credit entitlement increases, your transitional protection payment will decrease by the same amount. Childcare costs are the only exception.

    Further increases to your Universal Credit amount can eventually end your transitional protection payments. This will only happen if your entitlement is the same or more on Universal Credit."

    In effect this means, that smaller add-on benefits due to smaller changes in circumstances will be gated behind the UC amount, resulting in higher requirements for additional benefits such as a PIP component for e.g. depression or anxiety. It basically gives the government a card blanche to officially acknowledge your additional requirements and disabilities, but not giving you more based on the smaller amount itemized per additional need.
    On the one hand it makes guesswork and subjectivity behind things such as PIP points a little less offensive, on the other it basically puts a price on your life itself both in quantity as well as quality. It will basically turn into a market value of your health, your genes, your body, and in my opinion this will be ethically intolerable.

  • JF7891
    JF7891 Scope Member Posts: 130 Empowering

    That's basically the long-term effect of that, in short term it all stays the same. It's not a law to plug a legal hole in the new benefits system, they are already protected, we would neither be worse or better off as we are not the decision-makers. The fact is, this will make us all worse off in the long run, because there is no other reason than to use this transitional protection for 'gating' certain benefits in the future.

  • malvinmulch
    malvinmulch Online Community Member Posts: 68 Empowering

    In my case it did - 1 carers element removed, then LCWRA decremented from TP thus leaving me £200 a month worse off, this despite my wife and I both stating we have conditions that limit our ability to work when applying for UC (yet according to them that doesn't matter as they didn't process that till their assessment 3 months later) and I asked for an MR, which was declined and the MR was worded in a condescending way which passive aggressively implied I was stupid and couldn't I understand that UC works differently than legacy benefits and how dare I complain as I was still being GIVEN (undeserved handout implication) more than legacy, while not addressing my MR request wording at all

    Even one of their champions had to go and check the wording as they couldn't believe what I was telling them was accurate and when they realised this was the case they could see why I felt it was unfair and not all inline with British norms of fair play (DWP more akin to USA kill the poor attitudes)

  • malvinmulch
    malvinmulch Online Community Member Posts: 68 Empowering
  • JF7891
    JF7891 Scope Member Posts: 130 Empowering
    edited November 2024

    It does, as it says there, they basically state, that any additional benefit such as carer's allowance, will result in a decrease in transitional payment until the universal credit amount is matched, however the condition is, that you are not worse off than before, meaning your pre-UC-non-carer-related amount must have been lower. There are three scenarios that could apply to make sense based on your info: A) you were classed into the work-related activity group i.e. £190.80 per 4-weeks / month less than support group. B) You are now in receipt of a private pension. C) Someone stopped your carer's allowance wrongly thinking there is a benefit cap, which according to the government is exempted under carer's allowance and because they didn't understand that in UC the amount will always adjust to the same amount as previously received (even in the long run this will not be changed by the transition protection laws).