Help with heating

carnation
carnation Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener
edited January 11 in Everyday life

My husband as had cancer and an heart attack after chemo,I have chronic back pain,we are in our early 60s and can't get a pension,we live off his private pension which isn't a lot ,how do we get help with winter fuel as we can't

afford to have it much.

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  • Morgan_Scope
    Morgan_Scope Posts: 694 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hello @carnation.

    I don't know what area you're in but many councils have funds put aside to help households called Household Support Fund, it's worth checking what your local council offer.

    Scope also have a free service called Disability Energy Support which may be able to help you if you live in England, Scotland or Wales. As well as practical advice and support, they have a Stay Warm scheme which can provide energy vouchers and electric blankets.

    You can read more about this on our website Scope Winter Energy

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,256 Championing

    Hello carnation and welcome to Scope 😊

    Please see Scope's offer of a free electric blanket and energy voucher.

    Have you applied to your fuel provider for the Warm Home Discount of £150?

  • Kimmy87
    Kimmy87 Online Community Member Posts: 2,468 Championing
    edited January 5

    Some suppliers might have discretionary funds so it's always worth asking.

    Unfortunately from the information given they won't be eligible for Warm Home Discount (which is paid automatically).

    https://www.gov.uk/the-warm-home-discount-scheme

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,256 Championing
    edited January 5

    I'd also recommend a rechargeable throw, a heated blanket to wrap around yourself - it will pay for itself in energy savings. Very cheap to operate and safer than filling a hot water bottle.

  • carnation
    carnation Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    Thank you for your comments,we can't get the winter fuel discount we get 20 pounds too much, looks like we will freeze

  • carnation
    carnation Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    I don't know where to go,we have worked all our lives got made redundant,used all our savings to pay off the mortgage (had no choice)

  • Kimmy87
    Kimmy87 Online Community Member Posts: 2,468 Championing
    edited January 5

    I'm not sure what you mean by this?

    Your OP stated age as early 60's so too young for Winter Fuel Payment, State Pension, Pension Credit.

    You didn't mention any Income Related benefits as a possible route for Winter Home Discount- England/Wales it has to be low income and high energy costs which the Government calculate with various pieces of data. Again too young to qualify via Pension Credit

    Try a benefits calculator and/or local advice agency to check you are getting everything else that you are entitled too.

    https://www.gov.uk/benefits-calculators

    https://advicelocal.uk/welfare-benefits

    You mentioned health problems, have either of you explored entitlement to PIP?

    https://www.gov.uk/pip

  • carnation
    carnation Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    I get pip but it only pays for food,we are the forgotten generation,always worked paid taxes and now we cannot work we are shafted,anyone else in the same boat out there.

  • carnation
    carnation Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    We have checked all the appropriate benefits etc,not entitled to anything

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 63,736 Championing
    edited January 5

    Have you actually used a benefits calculator? In a previous comment you said you were in early 60's so too young for state pension which is 66.

    When was the last time either of you worked? Are you both claiming PIP or just one of you? does that PIP include the daily living part? If so are you claiming carers allowance?

    Do you rent or own your own home?

  • IndignantPigeon
    IndignantPigeon Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering

    Carnation I'm in the same boat, about the same age. Kimmy and Poppy are right, you can't apply for winter fuel allowance until you reach state retirement age, currently 66 but rising to 67 shortly. You're still classed as being of "working age", even though like me you were most likely told you'd be retiring at 60. If you have savings of less than £16k you can be accepted for universal credit, with the proviso that you will have to undergo regular checkups by the jobcenter to see if you've recovered sufficiently to work.

    If you are in this position + plan to apply I'd advise you do as soon as pos, as the medical criterion they're using to determine whether you are fit to work are likely to be tightened up considerably in the spring. In one respect we are still quite a lot luckier than those coming after us, there's been a lot of talk about raising retirement to 70. Of course if we lived in France, retirement would be aged 60… Increasing the retirement age here has saved goverments an absolute fortune.

    If your savings discount you for universal credit, you can still apply for the support Scope and others have outlined above. What sort of home do you have? If it's like mine, no central heating / double glazing, lots of draughts etc you can apply for a warm home discount from the gov, worth £150. One thing you can do, if you can afford it + have single glazing, buy some secondary glazing, I've heard even the rolls of plastic you heat with a hairdrier are pretty good at keeping the warmth in. Haven't got the money to do that yet myself…

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 63,736 Championing

    @IndignantPigeon whether there's any entitlement to Universal Credit will depend on their circumstances. Their private pension will be treated as "other" income and reduce any potential entitlement £1 for £1.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 599 Empowering
    Triple glazing is better than double glazing both in terms of thermal insulation and noise reduction. I regret that I did not install triple glazing in all windows.  
    

    Rolls of plastic are a bad idea, otherwise they would be used to build houses. Air is the best thermal insulator.

  • IndignantPigeon
    IndignantPigeon Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering

    Proper double glazing with sealed air between is of course the best insulation, but if you're desperate like me with no money to pay for it, living in an old single-glazed home with draughts everywhere, it would probably be better than nothing.

    A couple tested it out on the channel 4 program "How to heat your home for less this winter", which went out before Xmas, they said it was pretty good. Can't speak from experience myself, but you can pick it up pretty cheaply from somewhere like Amazon, compared to paying for double-glazing. Here's a link to the program:

    https://www.channel4.com/programmes/how-to-heat-your-home-for-less-this-winter

  • IndignantPigeon
    IndignantPigeon Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering

    Ah yes you're dead right Poppy, forgot to mention that. The only thing you can do, if you've still the choice, is leave your pension in it's pot until you reach state retirement age, that way DWP don't class it as income.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 599 Empowering

    Thanks for the link to how-to-heat-your-home-for-less-this-winter. I can note that there is very little useful there, except for thermal imaging monitoring of heat leaks.

    I never saw the name of the wonderful film there, do you have a link where I can buy it? Is this athermal film?☺️


    What is important at home in cold weather?
    It is important to have a comfortable temperature AND be able to pay for it.
    So, when reducing consumption, the house should lose less heat to the environment for comfort, right?) In my experience, most of the heat in houses is lost through entrance doors and windows. I can offer a very cheap, but unsightly solution - cover the window with several layers of newspapers and tape along the perimeter, flush with the plane of the wall. Approximately as in the picture

    The idea is that between the planes of the window and the newspapers there is a heat-insulating quasi-hermetic air chamber. Round-the-clock lighting will be cheaper than the losses on heating through the old window.

  • IndignantPigeon
    IndignantPigeon Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering

    Hi egister, yes you're right the TV program was the usual dumbed-down stuff, didn't tell you much, but I did notice the couple seemed really surprised how good the window insulation film was. I hesitate to put links up on Scope that could be taken as adverts, but if you go to Amazon + type "secondary glazing film" in the search box, you'll see a whole load of examples to choose from. If you're thinking of getting any I'd read the comments carefully…

    I hadn't heard of athermal film but gather it's to screen out sun's rays in a car, so probably the wrong stuff! You need to let the sunlight in + keep a still layer of air between the glass + the film. Ditto your solution with newspapers! I'm guessing it could work, newspaper is a pretty good insulator, but you'd end up sitting in a gloomy room with lots of mess, stuck sticky tape etc, on the windows.

    You're right about keeping out draughts though. One of the most effective measures I've found so far, that I've been able to afford, is the sticky insulation foam you can put around the edges of windows. It cuts down a heck of a lot of the draughts. If you go to Amazon and search for "insulation tape for windows", that's the sort of thing I mean. The stuff I bought is the rubber foam sealing tape (white with yellow backing tape), you can get 33 feet's worth for less than £7 + dead simple to install. The best thing is you can still open the windows afterwards.

    Another really good thing I've found is the draught excluders you can put along the bottom of doors, search term "draught excluder for doors". Rather more pricey but one I've got on the backdoor saves a fortune on heating in the kitchen, the wind used to blow like a gale under that door before. A good alternative is to buy / make a door snake, search "door snake draught excluder". I was lucky + picked up a lovely warm fat tiger snake one from a poundshop for… yes, a pound!

  • egister
    egister Posts: 599 Empowering

    Newspapers were suggested for cases when there is no money at all. If you still have money, then there are more opportunities.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_film
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_insulation_film
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulated_glazing
    It must be remembered that in old houses, supply ventilation works due to cracks in doors and windows; if the cracks are simply sealed, then CO2 and maybe even CO will increase.

  • IndignantPigeon
    IndignantPigeon Online Community Member Posts: 136 Empowering

    Right on all counts egister. I'd only say, sometimes can't afford newspapers! (you'd need sticky tape too…). Good to point out about CO2 + CO levels. BTW Scope has a link for free CO monitors at the moment…