Universal Credit Review - data protection breach!

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  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 6,743 Championing

    You need 25 posts before you can PM.

    It's likely an anti spam measure.

  • Ray212
    Ray212 Online Community Member Posts: 732 Empowering
    edited August 24

    Before making such bizarre comments, maybe understand that the PM's aren't limited just for you. You need a certain amount of posts.

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 6,743 Championing

    At the end of the day if people don't like the Scope platform, they are free to pay for, create and run an online platform elsewhere where they can set the rules.

  • Community_Scope
    Community_Scope Posts: 1,952 Scope Online Community Coordinator


    As Kimi has said, you need 25 points before you can send private messages, this is to stop bad actors and scammers from taking advantage of the option.

  • Community_Scope
    Community_Scope Posts: 1,952 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Note from online community team:

    Where possible we like all discussions to continue, but we’re choosing to pause this discussion for now so things can cool down and we can review it. For more information, please read our online community house rules. Misinformation and personal attacks are not allowed.

    We will review it and if we are satisfied the discussion can continue, we will hope to un-pause it by the end of today.

  • Community_Scope
    Community_Scope Posts: 1,952 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Note from online community team:

    Following review, we have now unpaused this discussion.

    Please remember that all discussions on Scope’s online community should remain civil, supportive, and safe. Please read the updated house rules for more information.

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 10,830 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi again @Lina31 just to let you know I've had to edit your comment as again, it contained misinformation. Please read the house rules for more information.

    Regarding the DWP, they are within their rights to ask you to confirm your identity, this is to stop people from abusing the system. Any solicitor will say the same thing I'm afraid. If you do not cooperate, then they can stop your benefits, so I'd urge you to please comply with their request.

  • Lina31
    Lina31 Online Community Member Posts: 28 Contributor

    Sir Keir Starmer is considering a mandatory digital ID scheme called “BritCard” that would make us all reliant on a digital pass to go about our daily lives.

    Mandatory digital IDs give the state enormous control and treat the population with suspicion.

    Introducing one in Britain would fundamentally change the nature of our relationship with the state, eroding our rights and freedoms.

    We all want to be able to prove who we are safely, privately, and conveniently but while digital ID can be helpful for some people in certain situations, it is not a magic solution for all scenarios.

    People in marginalised, vulnerable and minority groups are more likely to have reduced access to online services (e.g. people with disabilities, low income or the elderly), particularly where digital identity is a requirement.

    That is why we’re fighting to protect your privacy rights by calling for this dangerous proposal to be scrapped.

    Britain has a long and proud history of rejecting proposals for mandatory ID, and we should reject this one too.
    We can win this fight again, but we can only do it together. If thousands of us sign this petition, we can make Starmer reject the “BritCard” proposal.

  • Lina31
    Lina31 Online Community Member Posts: 28 Contributor

    @Albus_Scope,

    DWP in many equations been found out in wrong doing. Thanks for your advice, I will not comply with tney rules that is breach of data and privacy. Thanks for your opinion, bit I have mine too.

  • Lina31
    Lina31 Online Community Member Posts: 28 Contributor

    @Albus_Scope and your assistant. People say only they opinions and share bad experience due UC, DWP reviews. As the owner of this platform, thanks for your assistance to follow UC, DWP and Citizens Advice bureau, but unfortunate with they Advice we all had bad experience. You have your opinion, others have they own opinion and bad experience where I think to silence people about is very wrong.

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 10,830 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    We are all entitled to our opinions @Lina31 of course we are. But you cannot give your opinion as fact, that is against the house rules.

    The checks are legal and it's perfectly routine for them to do so. This is typically done to verify you are who you say you are and to check your income, savings, or other financial circumstances, which are factors that can affect the amount of Universal Credit you receive. They are also there to stop people from illegally claiming benefits, or to stop them from claiming, then sending the money overseas.

    To say these checks are unlawful is spreading misinformation, in fact the law entitles the DWP to request the statements and if you don’t provide them then your claim could be negatively affected. Please remember that, as we don't want you losing out on any benefits.

    But best of luck with your search for a solicitor.

  • Lina31
    Lina31 Online Community Member Posts: 28 Contributor

    @Albus_Scope, I wrote only my bad experience and opinion, this is not a fact. All had different experience with DWP, some good, some bad.

  • Lina31
    Lina31 Online Community Member Posts: 28 Contributor

    @Alba_Scope, UC and DWP needs to see only if people have savings that they didn't said about, property in UK.or abroad. All they need to see from the statements, capital each month and balance, main income. Not direct debits, not supermarket food shopping, as this is very wrong and breach of every person privacy and data. Due photo ID to provide, this again to follow proposal of BritCard that people has right to they opinion and to refuse. Again please note, this is only theory, but not the fact!

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 10,830 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    The DWP can rightfully ask for full bank statements by law, as set out in the Social Security Administration Act 1992 and The Social Security Fraud Act 2021, this is fact @Lina31 and it is the law currently. I've linked to both just in case you wanted to have a read through. 😊 But I do understand that people would rather the DWP don't see everything on their bank statements.

    The Britcard discussion would be opening a whole new kettle of fish! Personally, I don't think it's a great idea at all. 😆

  • Lina31
    Lina31 Online Community Member Posts: 28 Contributor

    @Alba_Scope,

    Dear Mr Alba. At least we had agreed on one point with our opinions! :) Let people share opinions due UC and DWP, and do not change the subject. Have a nice day to admin and web users! Big hug to All! Regards

  • Lina31
    Lina31 Online Community Member Posts: 28 Contributor

    UC reviews in providing photo ID and banks statements post to be done via Personal Information Charter, where DWP's personal information charter (or privacy policy) tells you about how and why they use your personal information and your rights and responsibilities. This charter explains whose personal information they process, how they use it, why and what for.

    If they process your personal information, they will:

    • make sure you know why they need it
    • only process the personal information they need
    • make sure nobody has access to it who should not
    • keep it secure
    • tell you through this charter or in other ways if they share it with other organisations
    • ask you to agree to uthem sharing your information where you have a choice.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-work-pensions/about/personal-information-charter#data-protection-principles

    Using The Gov.UK ID app The GOV.UK ID Check app is for proving your identity when you sign in to a government service with GOV.UK One Login. To use the app, you must start on the government service you are trying to access. You’ll be guided to the app when it is time to use it. 

    The app will check that:

    • your photo ID is real
    • you are a real person
    • you are the same person as in your photo ID

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/using-the-govuk-id-check-app

    So, UC in requesting bank statements and photo ID are hiding from the claimant that future access to your account will be used as DIGITAL your face scan. UC fail to many claimants to explain, why they need such informal, wiith who they will share it, and MOST important, if you're agree with that! So due BritCards is coming now, government preparation in secret. To @Alba_Scope, this is not a theory! This is a FACT!

    Sir Keir Starmer is considering a mandatory digital ID scheme called “BritCard” that would make us all reliant on a digital pass to go about our daily lives.

    Mandatory digital IDs give the state enormous control and treat the population with suspicion.

    Introducing one in Britain would fundamentally change the nature of our relationship with the state, eroding our rights and freedoms.

    We all want to be able to prove who we are safely, privately, and conveniently but while digital ID can be helpful for some people in certain situations, it is not a magic solution for all scenarios.

    People in marginalised, vulnerable and minority groups are more likely to have reduced access to online services (e.g. people with disabilities, low income or the elderly), particularly where digital identity is a requirement.

    That is why we’re fighting to protect your privacy rights by calling for this dangerous proposal to be scrapped.

    Britain has a long and proud history of rejecting proposals for mandatory ID, and we should reject this one too.

    We can win this fight again, but we can only do it together. If thousands of us sign this petition, we can make Starmer reject the “BritCard” proposal.

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 10,830 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hey @Lina31 I've removed two of your comments as they were duplicates. All members of the community can see your posts, as it's a public forum, so there's no need to post and tag individual members. 😊

  • Lina31
    Lina31 Online Community Member Posts: 28 Contributor

    https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-work-pensions/about/personal-information-charter#data-protection-principles

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/using-the-govuk-id-check-app

    Hi all. My previous text was deleted as was duplicate information but there post to be 2 links for all enclosed to read, but not 1. Please read what for UC needs your photo ID and your rights as a claimants.

  • durhamjaide2001
    durhamjaide2001 Scope Member Posts: 14,774 Championing

    you can meet us for a virtual coffee in the coffee lounge

  • Lina31
    Lina31 Online Community Member Posts: 28 Contributor

    @durhamjaide2001,

    Yes, that perfectly fine to have invisible coffee! I hope you enjoy yours! :) Face to face discussions at least not addited, deleted or controlled. I hope you understand my point