Upcoming changes to benefits
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I’m in the Income Related SG for ESA. I’ve still got 2 months to move over. I’m gonna wait a couple of days and see what happens. I don’t want to go through the process to migrate over only to be confirmed I’m not getting any Support benefit on UC.
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I was told that I didn't have to migrate to UC. However I'm now panicking as to how this new changes will affect that.
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I hope Labour get voted out soon as possible if these plans happen. They deserve everything they get coming their way. But that would mean the Tories back in charge or even Reform finally taking control. Sad times for the UK.
Living in Scotland, I’m hoping the SNP/Scottish Government maybe can take over the UC side of things like they did with PIP.
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I’m now panicking too. If we’re told anyone who has to migrate over won’t be getting anything then I won’t be moving to UC. At this point I’d rather work full time even though I can’t due to a lifelong brain injury than go through any hassle with the job centre.
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It is an unsettling time for all of us. I also have Physical and MH issues as well. I have written to my MP but haven't heard anything back. We just have to stick together and support each other the best we can. I never thought I'd see the day that a Labour Government would be doing this to the most vulnerable people in society.
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I haven't heard anything from my local Labour MP (surprise, surprise). Should I email the SNP MP in my town? Or would that be pointless since it's a Westminster issue?
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Last year when my PIP was moved to Scottish Adult Disability Payment. I still get the same amount every 4 weeks. I didn’t have to do any reviews or reassessment and in my award letter my next reassessment isn’t for another few years away.
I Still have 2 months to migrate over from ESA to UC but if these cuts are going affect new claims and being told we won’t get the support group on UC then I won’t be moving over. I’m not going through this hassle just to have it confirmed I won’t be getting anything.
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It's like they want people to engage just for the sake of engaging, why? What use is it for someone to engage who genuinely can't work? Just seems controlling to me.
It's like they don't want us to ever be able to relax or have peace.
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Anyone able to put screen shot of the times article up?
Is this likely to be the green paper stuff (washing etc)?
So confused by everything
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I think the worst part for me, and I imagine for many others, is that a lot of us have paid all our taxes fully anyway over the last 20/30+ years we have been able to work, with the belief because we’d paid in the system would be there for us if we ever needed it.
So now to be told it’s fine for me to contribute to the system, but to get stuffed as soon as I am unable to physically work & actually have need of it, especially after paying in so long, is outrageous.
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I knew the Migraiton move was coming at some point this year. But now seeing the reports for new claims you won’t even get LCWRA or whatever it’s called it’s making me think what’s the point of moving over if it’s going affect new claims and I’m gonna get less money? I’d rather just save up my ESA over the 2 months and if I’m forced to work even though I can’t I’ll have to do it.
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What were you expecting? That they’d shelf the green paper after a week of backlash (you underestimate politicans if you thought that)
Of course the likes of Kendall and reeves are still full steam ahead - this is the start of what may be a very long ‘campaign’ on our part as changes will take time for gov to get through
Far too early to lose one’s nerve and reassessments are part of the benefit system that you just have to deal with (it suck’s but I’m thankful the pandemic slowed things down a bit but it was always going to go back to every 12-24 months reassessments like clockwork)
This is going to sound harsh but thick skin will really help in getting through the upcoming year or 2
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I'm beyond confused. If they abolish work capability assessments for Universal Credit then does that mean we all automatically go into intensive job searching conditions!? Is it going to just be 'work coach discretion' as to who decides who the few are that will be protected from those requirements.
It doesn't inspire confidence that they keep pushing back the release of the green paper. Gives the impression they are fiddling with the details right up until the last minute. Which suggests a badly thought out and panicked approach to something which should be treated very carefully and with respect.
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I’m going to wait until the official announcement in the coming days then decide from there. If turns out to be true new claims even those who have to move over from ESA are going be affected and won’t be getting LWCRA. Then I won’t be moving over but if not I’ll move over.
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is @Kimmy87 around
This guardian article is suggesting only the freeze on pip will require legislation
”They suggested any vote in parliament – only required for the Pip freeze – would lead to a significant rebellion and the threat of resignations.”
”The change most likely to trigger resignations would be freezing Pip, which would require primary legislation.”
I am still right in thinking any other welfare cuts or tightening of criteria would also need to go through (most likely lengthy) legislation (though it was reported earlier in the week that ministers wanted to implement wca full reforms by this sept and after a 2 month consultation that would require legislation to be introduced and completed in 4 months to meet that sept 2025 target which sounds next to impossible unless legislation was never needed)I’m hoping the guardian either haven’t explained things well or they misunderstood the process (easy to understand- so much disinformation right now)
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Well atleast my MP had the decency to be concerned I guess. I've just read it again when posting and the eligibility tightening sounds particularly callous
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One thing, not sure if this has happened to others, but I was due for re-assessment for PIP, but recently they automatically awarded my PIP for another year, basically delaying the re-assessment. The cynic might claim they are delaying it, until they can change the criteria to try and say you aren't eligible. Albeit, I don't believe for a second they will get these changes through within a year either.
It's also a warning to any idea that it will only apply to new claimants, they will always come after existing claimants in the end, even if that's the initial announcement, so everyone has to oppose this, even if you think it won't apply to you right now.
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Everything on The Times is free this weekend
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I’m now starting to think this was the plan all along. Get everyone off IR ESA for UC only to when you do move to UC you’ll lose it regardless.
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