Upcoming changes to benefits

Catherine21

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1000288#Comment_1000288

Thier going to make it sound fantastic

Catherine21

Catherine21

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1000320#Comment_1000320

Can't stop crying sorry I know we're the same

Catherine21

Dont want to do this it's to much

Catherine21

Will reassessment be for excisting claamts

SM9346

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1000341#Comment_1000341

It makes sense why the Migraiton move is happening. Everything will be under UC. I’m now seriously considering not migrating over. Not worth the risk it’s going to cause.

philevan77

so we all have to be reassessed

FluffyCatMeow

for those of us in LCWRA of UC, did she say our LCWRA element won’t be reduced until next April or am I misunderstanding?

SM9346

WCA being scrapped from 2028, PIP to automatically entitle a Universal Credit claimant to LCWRA.

So you’re getting test for PIP for both PIP and LCWRA

Amaya_Ringo

I will need to read the actual paper to understand all of what she said around all of the benefits as I am not great understanding an oral tirade, but from a PIP perspective, I feel like at the very least we can take from it - no vouchers, and no means testing (good things). And while the 4 points threshold is controversial, I am also relieved it isn't relating to mobility which is the bit I rely on most (being unable to navigate out of a paper bag).

I would like more details of this 4 points threshold - and whether it's 4 points in one thing and then scattered points in others or over 4 points in everything. And how often the DWP will push people down to 2 in assessments to remove their eligibility - having fought for my 4 points in preparing a meal!

I also read some reports they were changing the enhanced level from 12 to 16. That will impact people, especially with regards to how assessments may or may not happen. The press reporting on increased assessments seem to have been mixed up as she only mentioned them with respect to ESA and WCA as far as I can tell. Nothing said about PIP assessments at all or the mess that they currently are.

So yeah. Next job will be to read the green paper. But I am at least taking as a positive the obliteration of vouchers and means testing from the PIP table.

Anything else I reserve judgement on for now.

Hugs to everyone, we're all in this together.

Tumilty

So if contributed recently i.e you've just come on to esa after work it will be a mix of the both but if been on esa a while it stays the same.

philevan77

I m lost by all of this

secretsquirrel1

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1000368#Comment_1000368

that’s how I read it on guardian . So lcwra becomes like a disability premium? But it will be based on how your disability affects you not on your capacity to work . Is that right ?

Albus_Scope

OK folks, I know that was a lot to take in and a lot of it was sounding vague. Remember this is only the green paper, so we may not get solid plans still. Once we've read through it properly, we'll make sure we do a post to break it down for everyone and Scope will of course give a statement as soon as we can.

Be gentle with yourselves please. ❤️

secretsquirrel1

Albus please could you post updates as they come up to make it easier for us to understand

FluffyCatMeow

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1000374#Comment_1000374

brilliant, thank you! That break down post will be super helpful and much appreciated

Jenwren

So I don't know if this is the right thing but I just found this on the govt offical website - it looks like the green paper, but I need to double check.

I'm going to try to read through it and see what I can understand

If it helps anyone it's here: https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/pathways-to-work-reforming-benefits-and-support-to-get-britain-working-green-paper/pathways-to-work-reforming-benefits-and-support-to-get-britain-working-green-paper

There's also copies in large print and something about evidence here: https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/pathways-to-work-reforming-benefits-and-support-to-get-britain-working-green-paper

I'll see if I can find a way to do bullet points of main points if that would help anyone?

philevan77

so do we have to re apply for pip ?

sparrow77

Thing that has left me confused as I was given lwc in 2021 I claim universal pip and my husband has carers for me but we do not and have never had any extra money on top of universal for the LWC . So not sure how this side of things will affect me. But the pip points change is going to affect alot of people

SM9346

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1000363#Comment_1000363

Tbf if the reassessment is being scrapped permanently for lifelong disability abd it means we don’t have to do anything in future with it. I’m pretty happy with that.