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so we’d need to find a way to fight in court for all of us too ? If the UN and now amnesty are saying we are already suffering human rights violations surely that’s enough for court proceedings
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I think the government "added" a few unimportant cuts concerning small groups (young people, pensioners), which can be abandoned under pressure from the people or the courts, but they will fight to the death for "Aktion 4".
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We have less human rights as years gone on and this primary legislation is all above board im preying put pressure on mps because up to them at end of the day I don't know after if legal action be taken but so far with the starmer done it cannot be touched pls pls tell me if I'm wrong anyone I'd love to be wrong
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What about discriminatory towards certain group of disabled people? Could that stand in court
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Yes rest up have a peaceful day
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That's what I always say about narcissistic people, they have no perspective.
They are not capable of seeing anything from anyone else's point of view so cannot see how they are affecting the people they are using for their own ends.
Because of the narcassism, they are so entitled that they think that they are invincible and that nobody can touch them.
It is therefore a surprise to them that we do live in a democracy and that disabled people vote!!
This lack of perspective could very well work in our favour! 😁
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He gives me the creeps too. 🕷️🦟 I know that he was a human rights lawyer, what a complete hypocrite!
He's robotic, with no humanity in him at all. I do think that he will come to a sticky end though. I do hope so. 😁
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Can't stop crying thanks for responding I've just emailed Debbie Abrahams she doing enquiry into green paper she's very good advocate for disabled it's a panel of 7 and apparently 4 agree with starmer can I ask would it take years to get to court if it did go to court god not even tories went this low
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I’d prefer Sunak . I don’t think he was this evil and would have watered down his green paper. Starmers enjoying this . I’ve been watching Dan wootton on YouTube about starmer and according to him things are being hidden in the msm . I don’t know but just saying .
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Hi MW, when I read what was written in B and W I felt despondent but then I thought and correct me if I’m wrong that the courts cannot intervene until it becomes law and different claimants and groups can challenge it in court . So it’s not that it’s legal just that it’s not in law yet . Is that right ?
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also MW, do you know anything about uc migration and biographical interviews over the phone . I don’t have a passport or driver license so they’ve given me an interview at their office. I’ve left a message in my school report ( journal) and asked for biographical interview but haven’t heard back . One of them said I couldn’t as I messed up and have no passport etc but another said I could if I ask in my journal.
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"I've just emailed Debbie Abrahams she doing enquiry into green paper she's very good advocate for disabled"
God give me strength
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Oh yes God long time ago used to have submismal messages like some sort of flashing from tv to make the consumer buy stuff actually very sick having his own code god what has this world come to trying stay sane then just breakdown with the reality of it all and yes starmer was prepared for this role and he really doesn't care for anyone's options or views or who suffers god bring back sunak
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Also whilst blinding us with this The goverment are going to be blocking the sun it goes on and on
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What do you think is the best and most productive way to fight this? We can only deal with the people who currently have the power to change things. Or do we just give up and accept that nothing can be done?
Numerous Labour MP's voted for the past changes to WCA so are likely a lost cause. I want to feel hopeful and is there any possibility for legal challenges to past changes in legacy benefits or are we screwed because we didn't act hard enough back then?
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thank you MW, I should of thought of that before. It’s just all so stressful it’s making my brain fog worse and my fatigue. I just read your previous reply to me regarding legal action. I thought that but it wasn’t explained in the B and W post I don’t think. It made it seem as though it’s water tight and a done deal but I’m no lawyer but it doesn’t seem right to me . Age discrimination, no proper consultation, points system discrimination.
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Going back a few pages but if you mean the assessment report did not resemble the actual assessment contents, I think this is something that happens more often than the outside world would like to believe.
I have a recording of my assessment, and when you compare the text of the assessment with what was said, there are numerous discrepancies. There are also points where you hear the assessor typing on the recording but none of the information mentioned at that point appeared on the assessment report.
And for several of my criteria it said "x reported difficulty with this - but I think they can do it fine so 0 points". The assessor never read my evidence. My decision maker read a bit of it but the decision bore zero resemblance to my case or my evidence. It doesn't help that the decision makers and MR people are mostly not the assessors, and so most decisions are made by people who have never met you. In my case everything was based on the assessment report, which was inaccurate, rather than the evidence :/
Reading comments of other claimants I feel like this happens quite often, and is one of the big reasons a lot of cases end up at tribunal. It's also the reason why the 4 points rule leaves nobody safe.
The DWP as an organisation has too much power, basically. There is no regulator. Most other bodies have regulators to ensure checks and balances, but the DWP deals with a huge number of vulnerable people and there is nobody to ensure they do it properly. Without a complete overhaul of the DWP, breaking it down and rebuilding it with these checks and balances, any policy that comes from that department is probably going to be unfit for purpose :/ Just the idea of giving such an organisation more responsibility or ability to monitor or intrude into people's lives is quite terrifying because who is there to ensure safeguarding targets are met?2 -
Please consider using this excellent template from SENSE Disabled Charity to further pressure your MP, in addition to your emails. Over 20,000 people have already contacted MPs with this template.
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Loulou82xxOnline Community Member Posts: 51 EmpoweringApril 26What do you think is the best and most productive way to fight this? We can only deal with the people who currently have the power to change things. Or do we just give up and accept that nothing can be done?Numerous Labour MP's voted for the past changes to WCA so are likely a lost cause. I want to feel hopeful and is there any possibility for legal challenges to past changes in legacy benefits or are we screwed because we didn't act hard enough back then?loulou, thank you so much for listening! Labour Ministers who served 10 or 15 or 20 years ago are desperate to keep this under wraps. I recently read that Faiza Shaheen MP - blocked from standing in the 2024 General Election - had lost her mother to suicide in a benefits crisis.
For what possible reason would the Labour Party carry Iain bl**dy Duncan Smith back to his seat?
I'm doing this with hope or I wouldn't be doing it. I think MW is saying that there is the possibility of judicial review for what exactly I am trying to learn from her posts. Delegated powers or Acts?
Yes, people are being screwed in the reassessment process because of those changes but are more worried about future changes is what I've been trying to explain.
In 2015 it was "We will continue to support….the most severely disabled" when the LCW component for sick and disabled claimants was axed. DWP cannot be allowed to do this again.
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