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Pretty odd that you view the trans community as being opposed to womens rights then because that's just not the case.
Speaking for myself, feminism has been a big part of my life growing up, and being in a marginalised group, you learn to look out for other marginalised groups, it's why so many trans people are at pro-choice rallies, asylum rallies, etc.
I knew when I was 3 that I didn't feel right, and when I got older, I learnt how to describe the feeling.
But I just want to live my life, without being attacked for my disability, gender identity and sexual orientation, it's not a big ask, I'm not risk to anyone, nor are most trans people.
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I do feel for you, I don't believe trans groups were listened to properly in the court case. A little unbalanced I feel. It's no different from disabled people having laws and rules and opinions thrust upon them by people who do not have all the facts. We know all too well how that feels. @idk you must feel attacked from all sides. The Good Law project are backing your fight, look them up. Meanwhile, carry on being you, being proud and good luck to you.
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Thank you :)
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I hope you thrive @idk not just survive and that you find this a safe and supportive place to be ❤️.
There's too much marginalisation and yesterday's ruling, very sadly, adds to it.
As has been said, be you and be proud, because you have as much value in who you are as anybody else. Take care and sending you my very warmest wishes x
ps I hope you have a lovely time out with your mum.
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"Speaking for myself, feminism has been a big part of my life growing up, and being in a marginalised group, you learn to look out for other marginalised groups"
Ditto. Feminism is a big part of my life and I am odd because I'm autistic. So, I do know what being different is about plus what being marginalised and oppressed as a woman feels like.
I don't wear make-up or skirts and I still look like a woman. My point is that being a woman is not about looks whatsoever (in my opinion).
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Thank you, I did have a good time with my mum, I'm also enjoying the Tomato Ketchup crisps Walkers have launched again.
"I don't wear make-up or skirts and I still look like a woman. My point is that being a woman is not about looks whatsoever (in my opinion)."
I agree, as do the majority of trans people, who would love reform to the gender service. Again, I got lucky and had clinicians who were more progressive, I don't wear make-up or skirts, being a woman isn't about clothes, or toys.
I have heard stories from other trans women who said they were denied treatment unless they dressed like a caricature of a woman for 2 years. They also got asked invasive questions like **** habits, if and what **** they watch, which is silly because plenty of cis women do those things, but it's used by some clinicians to refuse treatment.
If I didn't have surgery when I did, there's no chance I'd be here today. My body felt wrong, waking up everyday was awful. Things are so much better now with my body image, and I want the same for all trans people, my regret is not doing something sooner, which is something that has been taken from trans youth.
And now social attitudes seem to be going backwards, it's very scary.
It's hard to convey a feeling if it's not something you can relate to, I just wish people had more empathy.
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As a woman, I find this debate thought-provoking but not central to my own experience. I’ve always worked in male-dominated spaces and never felt inferior. My worth has always been about who I am, not my gender. What matters most to me is kindness, respect, and the strength of character—values that go beyond labels.
Trans women have always been part of the circles I move in, and I’ve never questioned their place because why would I? Identity is deeply personal, and we all deserve the space to be who we are without judgment or exclusion.
I’ve been fortunate to share a world with people from all walks of life—gay, lesbian, trans, Black, people of different faiths. We all support each other, enjoy life together, and never let labels define our relationships. For me, that’s what truly matters.
I understand that this ruling has a significant impact on many, and while it doesn’t change my day-to-day life, I respect how deeply it affects others. Legal definitions may change, but my belief in valuing people for who they are will never waver. No Supreme Court ruling will ever change that. Everyone deserves to feel respected and seen for who they truly are, that’s the world I choose to live in.
Sending a virtual sisterly hug. xx
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Thank you very much :)
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I just wish people had more empathy.
I clearly have empathy. Lots. But this movement and anger is led by MTF and not by women or the lesbian community. As long as male violence against girls and women continues to increase, this protected characteristic cannot be diminished in any way.
That judgement takes no rights away from trans people.
I do find it interesting that trans women feel discriminated against when that is what most women experience throughout their lives.
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Thanks for ignoring everything else I said, you are making your views very clear to me.
I'm sorry my existence hurts you.
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It doesn't and I'm sorry for upsetting you even more. I will butt out of your thread and wish you luck.
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I accept your apology, when I am in a better mindset, I'm more than willing to discuss the ins and outs with you, but till then, it's all very raw.
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Yes,they simply clarified the law;which certain organisations had been wilfully misinterpreting for fifteen years.
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Ah yesterday's announcement from the Inequalities Minister, and today's PMQs, absolute disgrace, open haye, and transphobia on show.
I'll be declared a non-person by the end of the year at this rate, or have to have some form of marking to show I'm a scary trans.
Horrible.
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I have body dismorphia and mines about my face skin nose i understand how it feels to be really uncomfortable in your Body for different reasons I found it a sad day seeing the uk taking more and more from the people who fought so hard I had one to one with lived experience at cmht she is transgender and on two occasions when in reception asking to speak to Mel two different receptionist said OK we will just call him I caught her reaction one day and really felt for her human nature will never let people be next it be disability doesn't exist its all in the mind comments already been said no words
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It means you use the facilities that correspond to your biological sex,or mixed sex facilities which a lot of places provide now.
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being in a marginalised group, you learn to look out for other marginalised groups, it's why so many trans people are at pro-choice rallies, asylum rallies, etc.
Excuse me again but women are not a 'marginalised group' and our reproductive rights are just that in the UK - our rights!
Women's voices will be heard and not shouted down is what the judgement means. Nobody here has 'attacked' transpeople. Describing people who disagree with you as 'bigots' though is an attack.
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Yeah, I'm done, can a mod lock this, and delete my account.
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