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A transwoman?
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Well there is a paragraph on wikipedia about that:
"The closed compound (one word) spellingtranswomanis sometimes used interchangeably withtrans woman, but is often associated with the gender-critical or anti-trans belief that trans women are not women, and thus require a separate word to describe them.[12] For this reason, many transgender people find the spelling offensive.[12][13] Some prefer to omittrans, and be called simplywomen.[10] Older terms sometimes still seen aremale-to-female(MTF,M2F), but these are outdated.[14]"2 -
Oh come off it, don't tell me I have offered up an insult. I don't have any issue with or without a space; that is just splitting hairs.
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I think you just missed the point I was making about how transpeople are being attacked and what this might mean.
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I usually give people the benefit of the doubt, but just let them know that it is used to other trans women.
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"Then you have never spoken to, or engaged with the trans community."
I supported someone through a transition nearly 40 years ago. I was the only one in the group to do so.
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Pretty odd that you view the trans community as being opposed to womens rights then because that's just not the case.
Speaking for myself, feminism has been a big part of my life growing up, and being in a marginalised group, you learn to look out for other marginalised groups, it's why so many trans people are at pro-choice rallies, asylum rallies, etc.
I knew when I was 3 that I didn't feel right, and when I got older, I learnt how to describe the feeling.
But I just want to live my life, without being attacked for my disability, gender identity and sexual orientation, it's not a big ask, I'm not risk to anyone, nor are most trans people.
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My life is hard enough, I can't be bothered with semantics.
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I do feel for you, I don't believe trans groups were listened to properly in the court case. A little unbalanced I feel. It's no different from disabled people having laws and rules and opinions thrust upon them by people who do not have all the facts. We know all too well how that feels. @idk you must feel attacked from all sides. The Good Law project are backing your fight, look them up. Meanwhile, carry on being you, being proud and good luck to you.
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Thank you :)
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I hope you thrive @idk not just survive and that you find this a safe and supportive place to be ❤️.
There's too much marginalisation and yesterday's ruling, very sadly, adds to it.
As has been said, be you and be proud, because you have as much value in who you are as anybody else. Take care and sending you my very warmest wishes x
ps I hope you have a lovely time out with your mum.
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"Speaking for myself, feminism has been a big part of my life growing up, and being in a marginalised group, you learn to look out for other marginalised groups"
Ditto. Feminism is a big part of my life and I am odd because I'm autistic. So, I do know what being different is about plus what being marginalised and oppressed as a woman feels like.
I don't wear make-up or skirts and I still look like a woman. My point is that being a woman is not about looks whatsoever (in my opinion).
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Thank you, I did have a good time with my mum, I'm also enjoying the Tomato Ketchup crisps Walkers have launched again.
"I don't wear make-up or skirts and I still look like a woman. My point is that being a woman is not about looks whatsoever (in my opinion)."
I agree, as do the majority of trans people, who would love reform to the gender service. Again, I got lucky and had clinicians who were more progressive, I don't wear make-up or skirts, being a woman isn't about clothes, or toys.
I have heard stories from other trans women who said they were denied treatment unless they dressed like a caricature of a woman for 2 years. They also got asked invasive questions like masturbation habits, if and what porn they watch, which is silly because plenty of cis women do those things, but it's used by some clinicians to refuse treatment.
If I didn't have surgery when I did, there's no chance I'd be here today. My body felt wrong, waking up everyday was awful. Things are so much better now with my body image, and I want the same for all trans people, my regret is not doing something sooner, which is something that has been taken from trans youth.
And now social attitudes seem to be going backwards, it's very scary.
It's hard to convey a feeling if it's not something you can relate to, I just wish people had more empathy.
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As a woman, I find this debate thought-provoking but not central to my own experience. I’ve always worked in male-dominated spaces and never felt inferior. My worth has always been about who I am, not my gender. What matters most to me is kindness, respect, and the strength of character—values that go beyond labels.
Trans women have always been part of the circles I move in, and I’ve never questioned their place because why would I? Identity is deeply personal, and we all deserve the space to be who we are without judgment or exclusion.
I’ve been fortunate to share a world with people from all walks of life—gay, lesbian, trans, Black, people of different faiths. We all support each other, enjoy life together, and never let labels define our relationships. For me, that’s what truly matters.
I understand that this ruling has a significant impact on many, and while it doesn’t change my day-to-day life, I respect how deeply it affects others. Legal definitions may change, but my belief in valuing people for who they are will never waver. No Supreme Court ruling will ever change that. Everyone deserves to feel respected and seen for who they truly are, that’s the world I choose to live in.
Sending a virtual sisterly hug. xx
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Thank you very much :)
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I just wish people had more empathy.
I clearly have empathy. Lots. But this movement and anger is led by MTF and not by women or the lesbian community. As long as male violence against girls and women continues to increase, this protected characteristic cannot be diminished in any way.
That judgement takes no rights away from trans people.
I do find it interesting that trans women feel discriminated against when that is what most women experience throughout their lives.
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Thanks for ignoring everything else I said, you are making your views very clear to me.
I'm sorry my existence hurts you.
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It doesn't and I'm sorry for upsetting you even more. I will butt out of your thread and wish you luck.
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I accept your apology, when I am in a better mindset, I'm more than willing to discuss the ins and outs with you, but till then, it's all very raw.
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Yes,they simply clarified the law;which certain organisations had been wilfully misinterpreting for fifteen years.
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