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Is the mobility side not affected by the cuts?
Also, Will you lose lcwra if you don't get daily living? I only scored 4 points on that 😞
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I feel sick to the stomach today knowing those ministers will play dirty and threatened then all before read whips wasn't getting involved this is enough to break anybody
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So whilst this had all been going on digital ID law been passed I'm seriously falling apart I wish I never seen sunak speech that day this is to much it
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There will still be MRs and Tribunals to dispute your new award should you be denied PIP under these new proposed rules.
I should think, The 13 week run probably relates to your previous PIP award which is still paid until your a new assessment decision is decided.
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Catherine, I know how exhausting and disheartening all of this can feel, especially when there is so much uncertainty. But I want to remind you that a lot of what is being discussed has not been finalised yet, these reforms have not passed and there is still room for change.
You have been such a strong advocate, emailing MPs and ministers. Please do not let the fear of what might happen take away your strength. At present, all we can do is wait, but I am certain a lot of these changes will be challenged and watered down.
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The mobility is staying the same just the daily living that's in the reforms. Sorry I'm not sure on Lwcra though
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I think Liz Kendall has caused deliberate confusion about this 13 weeks grace period. I found out online what it will mean regarding pip. If you have an assessment and are told you've not got it or been given a less award, e.g, from enhanced to standard rate, you can still ask for MR or go to tribunal, the 13 week grace period is not instead of these options, it's there to apparently give you more time after losing your pip. It had me worried too thinking I only had 13 weeks to appeal it, but of course the government and Kendall have no interest in explaining things properly for us to ease our minds. Just more mental torture and confusion (on purpose).
The evil person behind these 'reforms' is none other than Morgan Mcsweeny Downing Streets Chief of Staff, iv'e emailed him about his disgarcefull tactics and bullying of disabled people and about him getting rid of Jeremy Corbyn and others. If you want to email this vile man too, here is his email address,
morganmcsweeney@gmail .com
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TP only makes sense if someone is transferring from one benefit (eg ESA) to another (jobseeking UC). Ie there's something to transition into. (I am not endorsing this transition if it is forced, just using it as illustrative of what TP should mean and it's complete nonsense with PIP).
For the record, there was no TP offered for people with lifetime DLA awards being forced to shift onto PIP. My DLA was cut completely for a year, and while yes, I did get backpay, I was forced to get help from family until I had that backpay reinstated post tribunal. The problem is there isn't another option for PIP claimants who work. People who are scraping by on a combined income of work salary and PIP and nothing else are really in the firing line here, which is contrary to government's rhetoric about getting people into work. Again, I am not endorsing people being made to get work when they can't - just illustrating the futility, or cynicism, of this particular falsehood.
On the food PIP criteria. This was a real battle for me too. I didn't get the 4 points (which was correct) until my review three years after my PIP migration. This was largely because of the so called autism expert in my tribunal. She decided that my parents had just not made enough effort to teach me (my mother has spent 30 years trying to teach me to boil an egg) and I could do it if I really wanted to. My mother took exception to this and asked for her credentials, at which point we learned she had none at all. She had worked in a care facility for people with learning disabilities but had no qualifications in autism whatsoever. But she still knew with absolute certainty that I could cook if I tried, because I was fully verbal and not intellectually impaired.
This is where the PIP system falls down, because people who don't know anything about the disability are making personal judgements instead of reading the evidence and listening to the testimony of those who have the qualifications or personal knowledge of the claimant.
Even if this goes through, I'm expecting the DWP to be inundated with tribunals and appeals from people who previously were not given the right points but let it go because they qualified overall and didn't want the trauma of the fight. I'm also expecting there to be individual legal challenges over what a severe disability is, as it has no meaning in law - and especially if the outcome discriminates against particular disabilities more than others.3 -
I should have gotten at least one 4 point but as you say my award increased to enhanced so I left it . I remember when DLA moved over to pip. I had to go to the upper tribunal as first tribunal were so awful and were found to have erred in law . I even had a dwp rep there questioning me who seemed on good terms with the panel . They had to quickly train and hire extra judges for the amount of appeals . This will be far far worse.
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OOh Bless you thankyou so much was in bad place starting to let fear creep in thankyou for your kind words x
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I agree e
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Just gets worse god I despise them and to think I thought sunak was bad
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I'm sorry you suffer so they are vile yes the one that stops Mr going out and looking at people is body dismorphia it infuriates me when people say oh yh we all feel like that!! I literally have curtains drawn can't look in any mirror apart from one a hand held one and I do make up half face and then the other side if I caught my reflection in shiny surfaces I feel repulsive I had to go to harley street with my daughter on the tubes I had sunglasses on and head down as could see my reflection my daughter was so good she was like your ok mum you look OK no one's looking had that since 3 years old people think it's vanity far from it a dark deep rooted trauma last photo I had with my daughter was when she was 3 and my ex forces me too if I see a photograph of myself I want to end it I cry for days it's awful absolutely awful and no one does therapy where I am I had 18th month therapy in group and one to one I was extremely lucky to get that bit all through the group and one to one I zoned out didn't take anything in my mind used to race I'd panic thier all looking at me awful I used to run home and have a drink god could go one and on who wants a life of pain fatigue mental torture wh would want to be in this abusive relationship with dwp that's what it feels like I want to be like people I went to school with I'm just not I'm awaiting adjd another 4 years wait but I definitely have autism we have to fight them and fight them hard evil evil
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Thank you Charlie ❤️
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Sunak was never this evil . When I think of the relief when Tory’s were out 😩
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I was saying the same thing yesterday about appealing more and DWP getting swamped with MR and tribunals. I too just accepted my last award because I got enough points for standard and was scared of losing entirely. When I looked again at my awards letter I realised I should have gotten at least 4 points in 2 descriptors but didn't appeal. Like you say more people are just going to appeal in future, just getting what they should have in the first place!!
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Catherine that sounds awful and unfortunately unless any condition has actual tests or symptoms that are seen it’s not taken seriously.
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I'm getting overwhelmed with information.
Do I understand it right that by the looks of it, conditions like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome/ME and fibromyalgia and POTS will be at risk of losing LCWRA because they won't consider them 'severe'?
From what I've read they seem to want to allow only disabilities where people struggle to move much at all.
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