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There's not just the fact that there are so many in one party voting for or another party voting against the cuts.
The fact that so many of the Labour government are not going to vote for the cuts will be a huge blow for the PLP unity which is very likely to work very much in our favour. 🤞😊
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I received this email from DPAC today.
The Labour MPs campaigning for disability benefit cutsposted by Ben Gollightly in Politics, Action, Disability Activism
We have seen a letter to Liz Kendall signed by 36 loyalist Labour MPs who have formed a group to support the disability benefit cuts.
While the prospect of a cushy junior ministerial role, or the threat of the whips, might persuade many Labour MPs to vote in favour, this list represents some of the worst MPs, who are actively campaigning for the changes.
They should be lobbied and protested. They should not receive a penny of trade union support. They should be challenged at elections. CLPs must pass no confidence votes and trigger reselection ballots.
The list is:
David Pinto-Duschinsky MP
Luke Akehurst MP
Bayo Alaba MP
Jas Athwal MP
Danny Beales MP
Rachel Blake MP
Nesil Caliskan MP
Luke Charters MP
Shaun Davies MP
Jim Dickson MP
Helena Dollimore MP
Graem Downie MP
Damien Egan MP
Allison Gardner MP
Gurinder Signh Josan MP
Andy MacNae MP
Blair McDougal MP
Frank McNally MP
Samantha Niblett MP
Jon Pearce MPGregor Poynton MP
Connor Rand MP
Steve Race MP
Joani Reid MP
Mike Reader MP
Jake Richards MP
Tom Rutland MP
Mark Sewards MP
Sarah Smith MP
Mike Tapp MP
Fred Thomas MP
Dan Tomlinson MP
Jo White MP
Sean Woodcock MP
Steve Yemm MP
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A list of shame.
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Should be ashamed of themselves. I hope this is on X and TikTok. They need naming and shaming
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One thing they'll not be is ashamed.
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That’s so true . But they will regret their vote if they get pushed off the gravy train
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I am of the opinion that they will not dismiss us that easily. I too would have thought like that until recently.
The Labour leadership have done something so deadly serious with proposing these truly sadistic cuts with such prospectivly catastrophic outcomes that no one will be able to sweep our concerns under the carpet.
After being ignored under the Tories for so many years, we are used to just being dismissed but however bad they were they came nowhere near to the complete destruction to our lives that Labour plan for us.
The fact that the Labour party have done this to us is very significant to Parliament and to the public too, however right wing the leadership like to be. I don't think our plight is going away, by any means. 😊
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I hope everyone of them gets shown the door at the next GE.
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I've just read that it's in about a month's time but they didn't give a date unfortunately.
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Hope you’re right jul , have you heard any updates as to how many voting against and how many abstaining ? I’ve heard 100 abstaining and 70 against. Obviously abstaining isn’t good enough and they should lose people’s votes but surely that means starmer has less MPs on his side and voting for him ?
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https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1029629#Comment_1029629To be honest, there are so many different figures being bandied about that I would be hard pressed myself.
I've just heard though that three quarters of the Labour government majority in MPs that they got at the General Election are are objecting to the cuts in one way or the other. That's got to be good.
If you haven't read this article from ITV News from 3 days ago this is at least the most encouraging news of them all. Please watch the video too as it's even better than the article. 😊 Sorry about the awkward link but it does work.
https://www.itv.com/news/2025-05-16/government-considers-welfare-reform-concessions-as-labour-mps-threaten-to-revolt0 -
Thanks for that . My worry is they’re going to give small concessions such as wfa and increase to the two child cap which won’t help us at all . Obviously we need the 4 Point rule scrapped and the wca left alone but they won’t back down on that. If they give an impact assessment and proper consultation that would at least let everyone, public and MPs, know exactly what they plan . That would be a biggie for them as they don’t want anyone to know the truth before the vote. It shows how corrupt they are expecting MPs to vote for something without all the facts. I pray the Tory’s vote against and they don’t get enough to pass it
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Are Tories set to vote against Green Paper cuts?
News from Benefits and Work site
Most commentators have assumed that the Conservatives would always vote in favour of anything that resembled a benefits cut. But there now seems to be a possibility that the Tories are planning to support Labour rebels and vote against Labour’s Green Paper.
On 18 May, Conservative MP Helen Whately told the Standard: “Labour’s plans dodge the difficult decisions on welfare, leave more people out of work than they put in and will hit some of the nation’s poorest people.
“The sickness benefits bill is spiralling out of control and these rushed reforms will make things worse, not better.
“These plans are cruel, careless and clumsy. And it seems that even some of the people closest to Reeves agree with us, not her.”
What makes this total condemnation of the Green Paper particularly noteworthy is that Whately is the Conservative shadow secretary for work and pensions. It seems unlikely that she would have been so outspoken in her criticism without party approval.
It is clear that the rebellion on Labour’s back benches has been growing in the two months since the Green Paper was published.
On 1 April, the Labour List website published the names of 27 MPs who said they would rebel against the government and 15 more who had expressed opposition to the Green Paper.
On 8 May, 42 Labour MPs wrote to the prime minister to say the cuts were impossible to support.
On 15 May, ITV reported that 50 Labour MPs were set to rebel, including the 42 who had signed the original letter. 100 MPs had also signed a private letter to Starmer urging the government to delay the changes and rethink its proposals. At least 6 MPs signed both letters.
Which suggests that somewhere in the region of 130 Labour MPs oppose the cuts, though there is no suggestion they would all vote against them.
The labour leadership are said to be considering a number of ways to buy off the rebels. These include changes to the winter fuel payment means-test, changes to the two child limit or changes to the benefits cap.
The idea will be to tell rebel MPs that the government doesn’t have the cash help these groups and also to drop its Green Paper cuts.
Whether this is a pitch that will work, remains to be seen.
But there seems to be at least a possibility that the Conservatives are now positioning themselves to take advantage of Labour’s disarray.
https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/are-tories-set-to-vote-against-green-paper-cuts
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If they’re really trying to buy the vote by saying they’ll help the elderly and children with money saved by leaving the disabled destitute that are completely disgusting. This just shows how much they hate the disabled. I hope the MPs don’t fall for this . They become more evil each day .
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Making my way through the list Labour MPs that are voting for the cuts, emailing them all. They are in Government to help run the country and look out for the British People. They have mentally abused us for weeks upon weeks. And they are okay that we will all suffer badly through their decision.
If they vote I hope they will never hold a seat in Government again as we won't forget 👍
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All done 👍
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They'll be out of a job come the next GE.😀
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