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Even abstaining they deserve to lose their seats imo. They’re either for us or they aren’t. I can’t remember where I heard or read it ( brain fog 😩) but someone basically said if given a free vote all Labour would vote against cuts. I’m praying though atheist that it doesn’t even get to the voting stage . 🤞🙏

Given how little front line public service workers of any kind get paid for their work (and teachers do a lot of work over the hours they are paid), it is really not helpful to target them as getting something because disabled people are in a bad situation.

It's also perfectly possible some of those teachers, or teaching assistants are disabled people in this community (and no, I'm not one, but it's still possible).

4% pay rises for front line politicians might be obscene. There are people in teaching who are struggling financially. There are also teachers paying out of their own pocket to support kids and families with food and other things where actual provision breaks down. And you're also ignoring how many years public sector workers had their pay frozen by government despite inflation.

I actually came on here to say that it's interesting how they give a free vote to MPs on the moral right to die with dignity, but not the right to live with dignity. It's also a shame the MSM aren't more interested in the disability story, just in general. Aside the Guardian, and ITV, nobody really seems interested. Even the story about the DWP findings the other day disappeared off the BBC within a few hours.

I was just referring to the lesser of the two evils really. As I was writing it I was thinking myself that any MP who doesn't vote in our favour doesn't deserve their seat.

As about 200 of them have a majority smaller than the number of PIP claimants they have, in each of their constituencies, we can give them the order of the boot at the GE, in fact, we can give them a bloody nose sooner at the Local Elections in May next year.

It covers a lot more of the country than it has this year and we will be able to do a lot of damage to them, six months before the PIP 4 point law comes out in November 2026.

I agree, the voting system in in parliament isn't fair but the leadership have it rigged to their benefit like everything else. 😒

I really do hope that it doesn't get to the voting stage either, that the rebellion will be big enough to postpone it until we have been allowed a consulation that will take all our views into consideration and that nothing more will happen until MPs can give a verdict on the impact assessment from the OBR in October.

Those will make things quite a bit easier for us. That's, of course why they wanted to avoid doing those two things in the first place.

I believe it's the best we can hope for, I'm very doubtful that they will do a complete U turn. Starmer, Kendall and Co are too evil and stubborn. They will not want to lose face or look weak.

However, I do think that things are going more and more our way and will stay that way too. We have a awful lot of allies and what good news it is that the Work and Pensions Committee are on our side now as they are so influential! 😊 It's very possible that a lot more MPs will vote against the cuts because of it. ✊

Well, Starmer and Co believe that the Labour Party are only for people who work, instead of for the working class as it used to be.

The disabled, the elderly of state pension age and even children are all thrown under the bus. 😮

Well we can continue to make life difficult for them by continuing our resistance to these sadistic cuts and then vote them out of office!!

It's no less than what they deserve if that's their attitude. 😡

I know that they are public sector pay rises in this case but I want to make the general point that every person in this country is as worthwhile as the next. ✊

No life is expendable because we are unable to work or too old or too young to work making greedy, exploitative big business and corporations who donate to political parties even richer.

NHS and education bosses have huge pay rises and there is plenty of expensive private sector interference too! 😡

Morning Catherine, I think emailing Rayner may be worthwhile too . I will this weekend. After her “ leaked” email it seems she’s not for cuts . Don’t know how she’ll vote though but it’s worth her knowing we back her if she votes against.

The house of ( parliament) a thousand corpses .

Definitely better they abstain rather than a vote for . But not good enough.
Good point about the next elections. In the telegraph demented Kendall has said she will go ahead with the cuts to fight off Farage in the red wall . Not sure how that’ll improve their votes. But it shows it’s all cost cutting and votes. I’d love starmer to change direction and stab her in the back . I think Rayner is now against the cuts if that leaked email is true.

Maybe instead of cutting disability benefits there should be a wealth tax, the below information shocked me, and it makes me angry to think we are being scapegoated for a failing economy, wars in other countries, greedy mp's and big business, just because they think we are an easy target.

The number of billionaires in the UK has increased from 15 in 1990, to 156 in 2025. 

Their combined wealth has risen from £65 billion to £619 billion. 

The UK’s 50 richest families hold more wealth than 50% of population.

A 2% annual tax on wealth above £10 million would raise £24 billion a year.

And, instead of being plunged into poverty, or deeper poverty, those who paid it would scarcely notice it had gone.