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Kendall recently said she’s looking into changing the pip criteria/ assessments. I’m sure it was around the time of the WFA u turn. I said then and still think now perhaps she plans to water down the 4 point descriptor so it’s closer to a 2 point answer. That way it means it’s watered down but without a climb down. Either that or it could go the other way and they could make getting a 4 point descriptor harder by making the answer like an 8 point descriptor, though that would be risky with all the back lash they’re getting.
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Do you reckon it will be a complete overhaul in questions ? To make the questions line up with LCRWA a bit more so people don’t miss out as much ?
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Hi Johnny ,
I don’t know I just think they can go either way if they change the criteria. They can make it harder so even less people get it or if they want to soften the blow without looking weak they could make the 4 point questions easier. All we can do is email them as much as possible. I just emailed starmer again and Farage. I’m just hoping the rebels continue to support us and pressure him to u turn 🙏🤞
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I think he may stab reeves in the back . He waited till she was out of the country to say he’s looking at the WFA. I just wrote to starmer again and reminded him he’ll be needing our votes next election and it’s not fair to u turn for the pensioners ( which I agree with) and the two child limit but leave us disabled people to be destitute. I also emailed Farage because as you say if Farage said tmrw he supported us Starmer would follow suit.
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Apologies if this has already been posted. This means Labour could go either way with the cuts.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/25/the-charts-that-show-just-how-worried-labour-should-be-about-the-polls
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I submitted my response to the consultation today, (around eight pages long). Mum and I spent a long time writing out our answers. I hope the DWP does read our responses.
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I hear the talk on here about wfa back down. But in my opinion he and reeves won't back down that much. I'm on the new pension, but the wife's on the old one and that's all we get, I think he'll refuse to give anyone on the new pension anything as he didn't say and neither did Brown that they'll pay it to everyone. But he'll give in enough so they both can steal some benefits and wfa. Maybe they need to look at their own claims for income and see how much they're stealing from the public purse.
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Is there something wrong with site, it seems to be posting twice sometimes?.
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Totally agree I bet it's a fair amount they get from the public purse + the big pay packet
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The site didn't register some edits to a post I made the other day, either, but maybe it's just because the thread is so long.
I agree with reversing the WFA cut (at least, if they can't ensure everyone who needs it gets it without everyone getting it, everyone should get it to ensure nobody misses out) and the 2 child benefit cap. But it makes me absolutely furious that they are only doing this now to try and stop people sticking up for us, in order to make disabled people suffer.
In the last two months, now my work position is permanent, I am now a tax payer. A disabled tax payer. And I would much rather my tax was going to support disabled people than going on Government expenses.What doesn't help is the long, drawn out, drama of it all. The I paper had a whole article about this and DID bother to insert that PIP is not to do with work, which is more than the government seem able to do. Not that I think that people on ESA/UC should be thrown to the wolves, I just feel like these are two SEPARATE issues which should be looked at individually.
Do things need changing in PIP? Yes, but not in the way the government think. More people being accurately awarded without needing appeal, better criteria which incorporate more range of disabilities/disability needs (ie, fatigue is not mentioned on current PIP, nor is executive function, nor is the ability to leave your house on any given day).
The PIP criteria discussion is mentioned in the green paper as something they intend to look at after the green paper proposals are passed. But I am a cynic. I would expect the changes to make getting 4 points harder, since they're fixed on saving money.
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I agree regarding pip criteria, I gave ME and fibromyalgia and there’s nothing in the questions regarding fatigue which is debilitating as there’s no treatment or tablet that gives you energy.
I think the pip criteria change could go either way , they’ll either make the 4 point questions easier so it’s not so brutal and us a partial u turn without actually be seen to be u turning or they’ll make the 4 point descriptors what are now the 8 points meaning hardly anyone will qualify. It’s hard to say which way it’ll go as it depends on what starmers thinking at the time . It wouldn’t look good to u turn for other groups and leave us to suffer though and I really hope labour MPs keep up the support for us and aren’t swayed by this attempt at what I think is bribery . We really need some good news as this is cruel what he’s doing.0 -
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apparently the government are going to give us more time to prepare for homelessness and destitution according to The Times front page
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in what sense ?
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i'm not subscribed to the times so i can't read the article hence the screenshot.
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no I am not either
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I was watching the news this morning and paper reviews and it said as a concession to the bank bench rebellion they are going to put it back apparently. They want to give us more time to prepare for the changes.
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