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  • johnnyy85
    johnnyy85 Online Community Member Posts: 145 Empowering

    morning Squirrel So what is the gov saying there gonna delay exactly ? Not the vote then

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 221 Pioneering

    Yes your'e very correct, we must hold our nerve and just keep showing this bunch of morons for the charlatans that they are. I'm astounded Liz Kendall & Co are allowed to spout such utter drivel, lies, and propaganda, especially surrounding PIP. Maybe they just assume as we are unwell either physically or mentally, we don't have the capacity or intelligence to see through their blatant lies.

    I actually enjoy calling them out for who they really are, clueless, inept, sociopathic monsters who seem to think they know better than the rest of us, including Lawyers, DPAC, ECHR, and the U.N to name but a few!!

    I would really urge everyone on here to please not beleive what you read online or in the media, yes, there is usually some element of truth in what they say about these reforms, but it's sexed up, and exagerated to make you click or read it. And as for Liz Kendall and her motley crew of pirates, they'll get their comeuppance soon enough with legal challenges, cabinet reshuffles and losing their jobs.

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    Please don't say that. 😞

    See the other post that I've just sent to you. Please 🙏don't give up hope. 😊

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,387 Championing

    I think it’s delaying the time we would lose pip and lcwra to give us time to apply for other benefits ( which is only basic uc for job seekers I think) or find other alternatives. I wonder if they’re testing the waters to see if they can offer a little bit and see if the MPs vote for it .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,387 Championing

    just read this from The daily express

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  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 221 Pioneering

    Good Morning, Yes that's exactly what I read and tend to beleive that more than her targeting mental health claimants, maybe it was a smokescreen, or in my opinion she's realised her mistaken comments on saying PIP was never designed for mental health reasons (untrue as Iv'e researched), but again she's so deluded and put her foot in it by tring to target another group- physically, older, disabled people!! So now shes been ageist, among other discriminatory comments she makes.

    If this was the 16th century she'd be up for witchcraft, infact we should bring a case against her under the witchcraft act 1736, and then burn her at the stake and celebrate with burgers and hotdogs.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 190 Empowering
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,387 Championing
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,387 Championing

    I have ME and even a phone conversation can mentally and physically tire me out . Being forced to work will put us under pressure as we are responsible for others when we can’t even take care of ourselves.

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 193 Empowering

    Thank you for making me laugh for the first time in ages Charlie

    😁

  • jul1aorways
    jul1aorways Online Community Member Posts: 397 Pioneering

    I agree with you that it's doubtful that money is the issue. It's the ideology behind this minor amount in savings that this is all about.

    Starmer and Co have set themselves up as a party for people who work. It's not for the working class any longer. If you are unable to work, like us or you are too young or old to work, they regard you as an unnecessary burden, costing the country money. Yes, isn't it evil. 😳

    I think you meant the ECHR, the European Court of Human Rights. They are already discriminating against the human rights of disabled children.

    I've just read about the SEND (Special Educational Needs and Disabilities) children where the government are now trying to stop their funding. They will then have to be taught in a mainstream school which will really disadvantage them educationally and leave them at much greaterrisk of being bullied by other children. 😡

    It's disgraceful but hardly surprising. The monsters who are supposed to be governing the country are using every way they can to sideline the disabled, whatever their age. As far as they are concerned, only fit and able people of working age who do work deserve anything at all. 😤

    I agree that their priorities are completely immoral and wrong and have nothing to do with what amount of money is allocated and to where but with their political choices in trying to compete with the odious Nigel Farage and his equally vile colleagues in Reform UK. 🤮

    The problem with taxing the gambling sites is that the companies that run them will pass the extra costs of that tax on to their vulnerable customers, many of who will be gambling addicts, making life even worse for them.

    I would not like to think that any U turn of any kind should be achieved by making people who have gambling addiction pay even more to do so, putting them into more debt, poverty and misery.

    How grotesque this government has become. 👺

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,387 Championing

    Hi jul ,

    it was the send kids I meant , I think it’s the echp or similar they want to stop. It’s weird as once I heard about the 2 child limit scrapped I thought to myself, but what about the disabled children? They’ll grow up to probably be disabled adults and Starmer hates them .

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 221 Pioneering

    I don't think Scope will mind it too much, it's a good lookalike of her (and very funny) , I'm sure NO10 don't have cabinet meetings if she attends, more like a coven sat around their cauldrons brewing up evil schemes against us, double, double, toil and trouble Liz Kendall burn, and cauldron bubble😆

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 221 Pioneering

    We all need a laugh at times like this Martin, especially with these clowns in office.

    Keep well.😊

  • Topcat71
    Topcat71 Online Community Member Posts: 143 Empowering

    I have decided to wait until it's made law and deal with it after that. I written to my MP and others and sign petition . There nothing more I feel I can do now.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 190 Empowering

    This means they must know it will leave us destitute.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,387 Championing

    I think it’s the one pic of her that may be ok to post 😂. It reminded me of a favourite film Horror Hotel . I’m sure Catherine will know 😂

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,387 Championing

    I could be wrong but I think they slyly mean instead of the 5 week wait for basic uc they’ll continue to give us pip . Same as now , when you transfer over from legacy you get an extra payment of esa legacy after you transfer . But how can we legally claim uc and agree to job searches when we know we can’t ?

  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 193 Empowering

    Sky news political commentator says we will be given more time to prepare and to claim other benefits, what are these benefits?

    Just shows they haven’t got a bloody clue, speaking utter nonsense

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,387 Championing

    I don’t know how this will even work out . If I lose pip and automatically lcwra I then have to apply for uc basic and agree to job searches. I physically cannot sign up for that as I’m either resting or sleeping most of my time. So what benefit would I claim ? There isn’t one . I think they mean once we lose pip we get TP while we wait for uc basic to kick in . So maybe one extra payment as they do now for esa legacy going to uc lcwra