Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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So, the UC and PIP Bill has been passed, with great damage to Starmer.
The abolition of winter fuel payments was passed …
and reversed by Grey Power/11 million pensioner voters.,
We can do the same reverse it…
not success of failure but the courage to continue.
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it’s not passed, yet. There will be another vote next Wednesday. If the speaker doesn’t designate it as a money bill next week, the Lords will then be able to push for amendments and hold it up. Only when both houses have passed it, can it be signed into law.
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The fightback continues. We've got this. Every MP that has voted this bill through will be seeking alternative employment come the next GE. The electorate will not forget. Labour have lost the next GE on this.
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It was only for existing claimants till 2028 so probably still be around same time scale for them it's a complete mess
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This is just a distraction to calm the masses like you said next election oh such fun so they are definitely not willing to scrap just do the vote and scrap it never ending sarga
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Coma
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See they won't go through with the vote. As obviously would lose I'm sick of these incompetent psychological abusers so does this mean they won't vote today or thier hoping it will be enough to get it through
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Being conned again The vote is on the Original bill !! Needs scraping immediately sneaky snakes
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Voting on Original Bill all smoke amd mirrors
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100 percent more under handed tactics
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We are doomed
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IIt's Passed
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So is that it now they can do whatever they want
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Nigel Farage was just ranting that fraudsters can get on PIP for life after a 10 minute zoom call with their GP. Absolutely clueless on every level.
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well if they just accepted the u turn that new claimants only would be affected then we wouldn't be back to square 1. Benefits rules change and I wasn't able to claim old style esa but had to claim UC and the health element , but now the bill has been passed and we are tortured again with the anxiety of not knowing , maybe to try and kill a few more of us off .
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I think they still have a blank cheque to do what they want after Timms review on assessments, activities and descriptors. But the bill isn’t final yet. MP’s are seemingly demanding more detail on the review before next weeks third reading and vote.
Still hope the speaker won’t let this sail through as a money bill next week, too. If he doesn’t designate it a money bill, the Lords can put a ton of scrutiny on every line in the bill if they want, and effectively force amendments.
So July 9th next week is when the third reading happens, short debate and then vote.2 -
we were okay until the MP's wanted more so now we are punished , they passed it and its what they wanted . Simms will review it and then we will all need to get four points , just as they wanted .
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Yes seemed to go ok, nice assessor, made me at ease, couldn't understand a few questions even though simple questions.
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Sorry, but I don't think we were okay at all. Nothing was secure or clear, it was a mess and still is. None of it is reform, it's just cuts and spite. I think they were always going to punish us.
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MP’s are demanding more clarity on the review before next week’s third reading and vote (July 9th). I’m hopeful they will force the government to limit the scope with another concession.
4 points is just a technicality anyway. They could always make it twice as hard to get 2 points in the descriptors, and thus in real terms it’s 4 points for everyone.2
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