Uc payment - £34 less than what I was receiving from ESA, is this right?

lhasalover

Hi all,just wondering if anyone could help please ive just received my 1st uc statement n its £34 less than what i was receiving from esa(support group) i know its not much but does that sound right? Im just confused as in the breakdown is says £69 deductions from benefits i wasnt intitled too? Huh.i was receiving the same amount for many years(no change of circumstances or anything.

Kimi87

With UC it is your award before deductions that you need to compare to your legacy benefits.

Sometimes when migrating to UC you are mistakenly paid too much of the old income based benefit, which is supposed to stop at a certain point after claiming UC.

When this happens, the amount is deducted from your UC award. Usually it's paid off from the first deduction but if not a deduction will be taken from your monthly payment until the amount owed is recovered.

You aren't worse off financially because you've already received the overpayment of legacy benefits.

lhasalover

Hi, ah its confusing ,i submitted the form on the 3rd n received the 2 week run on,maybe it was that? As i got full esa payment n not the cb esa which i am now on even though for years i assumed i was on ir n not both elements..it doesnt say its an overpayment or they will carry on deducting.it all looks correct bar that deduction .thanks for replying :)

Kimi87

A 2 week run on of ESA is correct, the amounts vary from person to person because it depends on where you were in your ESA payment cycle when you applied for UC.

"benefits you were not entitled to" does usually refer to an overpayment of legacy benefits by mistake.

You can ask via your Journal (using the payment option) if any money is still owed following the deduction of £69, or speak to DWP Debt management on 0800 916 0647.

lhasalover

Thanks kimi,i will ring on monday as i prefer to talk to somebody.i only received the two week run on after submitting my form then just my cb esa every two weeks after. I just wish they would make things clear like an overpayment from such a date etc(id understand then) have a lovely weekend n ty again :)

Hopeless

Under the deductions bit and saying you received benefits you weren’t entitled to it should say which benefit this is. I had a deduction for housing benefit as I actually had a run-on of 2 weeks and 6 days so my deduction is for 6 days of my rent.

lhasalover

Hi,ive just looked n it says esa,im still confused as to why though as i only received my run on 2 weeks after i submitted the form .it dosnt say anything else or if i owe more,just that amount.il just have to wait till monday for someone to explain it to me

Hopeless

Ah, at least you know for sure you need to contact ESA for the answer. Hope they can clarify the problem and put it right

lhasalover

Fingers crossed. Ty for replying also,have a fab weekend :)

lhasalover

Well im still nobe the wiser.i rang uc but she had no clue n told me to ring esa,the lady there had no clue n directed me bk to uc.this one asked if if had any esa payments since id submitted my form (i said yes,one run on,then my 2 weekly cb esa payments as im now on new style plus uc.she said itl be deducted every time but then said it was an overpayment n to wait for a reply in my journal .arggh! If they are going to deduct 69 every month then il be worse off when im not supposed to be under this managed protection? Im seriously baffled

OverlyAnxious

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1046012#Comment_1046012

If you get New Style ESA they'll deduct £609 every month. You won't be worse off because you'll be getting exactly the same amount of money from ESA instead.

The £34 probably is caused by an overlap between IR ESA and UC. Very difficult for us to confirm that one.

lhasalover

Ah i hope thats the case or i will be worse off if they decuct every month.its so frustrating being passed from pillar to post .il just wait now for case manager to respond in journal.thank you for the help

lhasalover

Hi,its wednesday now but nobody had replied at all in my journal about this :( is there anybody else to contact does anyone know or is it a case of sit tight in the hope someone responds soon

Kimi87

As advised you can speak to DWP Debt management on 0800 916 0647, they should be able to tell you if any amount is outstanding.

lhasalover

Ty,i will do definately once im bk from doctors as il probably be on hold for ages.i just thought uc would have known as its them that pay me.hopefully i will get more luck with dwp later,fingers crossed,n thanks again :)

lhasalover

Finally i have an answer.i rang dwp debt n i have none.rang uc again n id been overpaid a bit when migrating over so ty to whoever said that. I will get normal payments from next month.if only it had stated this in the beginning.thanks everyone for all the replies n help :)