Angela Rayner

Wibbles
Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,618 Championing
in Current affairs

What do people think about what Rayner did ?

Should she lose her job or get away with it ?

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  • Stellar
    Stellar Community Member Posts: 536 Trailblazing
    edited September 2025

    I don't care, and nor should you. This circus with Rayner is a distractino from the {removed by moderator - uncivil} government's democide of marginalised Brits (such as disabled people, trans people and asylum seekers) {removed by moderator - uncivil}

    {removed by moderator - again, see house rules}

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    Can I please just remind everyone that name calling and uncivil language is not allowed on the community. Opinions are fine (facts are better,) name calling is not. If you're unsure, please see the updated house rules. Thanks. 😊

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    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,169 Championing
    edited September 2025
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  • ricky1040
    ricky1040 Community Member Posts: 234 Empowering

    Yanno. It's crazy to be so out for blood with this. If they do the enquiry and she's purposely broken laws then of course she cannot remain. But untill then I guess innocent untill proven guilty.

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Community Member Posts: 413 Trailblazing

    Given her position she needs to be scrupulous in every transaction, and it appears she may not have been scrupulous.

    This BBC article outlines the timeline.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2jl43400jo

    My view is if she was given incorrect advice, she should publicly sue the lawyer/financial advisor.

    If she was given correct advice, and then proceeded illegally, then she should pay the same price as anyone else who has committed fraud.

  • Girl_No1
    Girl_No1 Community Member Posts: 413 Trailblazing
    edited September 2025

    Deleted: duplicate post

  • 66Mustang
    66Mustang Community Member Posts: 15,476 Championing

    She was given incorrect advice, but she asked advice from a firm who was not qualified to give formal advice

    You're allowed to ask a financial advisor for informal advice outside of their remit but they have to be very explicit that they are not giving formal advice

    If they didn't make it clear that they're not experts and their answer didn't constitute formal advice, they would be liable

    If they did make it clear, it's up to her to scrutinise the advise - if she acts on it without doing any more diligence then it's on her

    To make it more complicated it's been suggested she gave incorrect information to the company and so was given correct advice based on the information she chose to disclose, so that would shake things up a bit as well

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    Personally, it doesn't matter what I think, it's up to the independent enquiry to decide on the outcome and I trust they'll be fair. I think we should all be focusing on other things in the news.

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    No @Catherine21 MPs who resign receive no extra pay outs.

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    The ethics report said she "breached the ministerial code and did not heed the caution in legal advice received" I'll be reading the enquiry later for sure. It's certainly be a loss for the Labour party.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,345 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1065233#Comment_1065233

    She hasn't resigned as an MP. She's resigned from Cabinet and as Deputy PM.

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    She's still resigned @Zipz and thus would be entitled to no benefit packages.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,618 Championing

    She will only lose her MINISTERIAL benefits

    She will continue to receive her normal MP salary (£93,904 + expenses) - so will not be broke !

    MPs also receive expenses to cover the costs of running an office, employing staff, having somewhere to live in London or their constituency, and travelling between Parliament and their constituency.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Community Member Posts: 4,345 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1065253#Comment_1065253

    True.

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    The comment in question @Wibbles was "probley sent off with good package"

    Which she won't be.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,618 Championing
    edited September 2025
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1065258#Comment_1065258

    Unless she resigns as an MP as well……?

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    If she resigns as an MP as well, she'd still not be entitled to anything extra. She'd be resigning, not being laid off.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,618 Championing
    edited September 2025
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1065263#Comment_1065263

    25% severance pay.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,618 Championing

    I don't think that her role as an MP is tenable - I am guessing that in the next 24 hours, she will resign completely….

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