Labour's backdoor changes to welfare : ((
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Thanks MW123, very useful. But it only mentions LCWRA, I wonder what they have in store for the rest of us?
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Nice to hear from you Albus, and if it's there's no coersion involved then I agree, the policy's a good thing.
But the gov document only mentions those on LCWRA. I'm wondering what changes will be brought in for the rest of us on LCW, and whether they'll be mandatory. That would take things to a different level…
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Good to see you too @FeistyPigeon my avian friend. 😊
People with LCW should still be engaging with their work coaches, if at a limited capacity, so I'm guessing that'll be why they're not mentioned in the gov docs?
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Although I'm not suffering from depression or anxiety, people who are suffering from these illnesses could equally claim that you seem fitter than themselves, saying that people with depression or anxiety or both are incapable of constructing an argument like yours and or debating, which is true.
Therefore, I don't think it's wise to dismiss people whom you're not in their shoes, by repeating what politicians parrot.
For instance, in New Zealand, according to its medical profession, 80–90% of people who took their lives had depression. I don't think the UK is much different.
According to the World Health Organisation, people with depression are at increased risk of suicide, as depression is a main cause of suicide mortality.
People often confuse depression with sadness, and anxiety with stress. Depression is a medical illness that is far more than just sadness. And anxiety is distinct from stress because anxiety is a persistent, internal response with no clear trigger, while stress is a temporary reaction to an external demand that fades when the stressor is gone.
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I know exactly what depression and anxiety is, I have had depression and and very extreme anxiety all my life being autistic. But I think more support should be given to people with anxiety and depression. As it currently stands the country is just masking these conditions, by not actually tackeling the problem. My personal opinion I think some of the money claimed for depression and anxiety should instead be put into support. This would benefit in lots of ways, for instance the person with these conditions could have access to better support and hopefully save more lives. it would also reduce the ongoing claims for UC and PIP and save the country money. So in thoery it would save lives and also save money.
Currently in the UK, there is little or no support in place. Most get paid every month/week with no other support in place or anything else. This just ends in a vicious endless benefit cycle, where your stuck in the system with no hope of coming out of it.
Everyone in the UK on benefits at the moment, is fearful all the time. When we need benefits we have massive battle to fight for those benefits, with the endless fear of suddenly being left with nothing or not getting paid. Claiming benefits is one of the toughest and stressful things I have ever encountered. Its like your being interrogated for a crime you have comitted. But once you finally get those benefits, you have the endless fear of future reviews and no other support in place. If you want to ever work for 5 hours one week becuase your having a good week you are threatened with losing everything, keeping everyone locked in the system with no escape.
The whole system is broken and needs fixing. It just doesn't serve a purpose anymore in todays society and is just making the country worst off.
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@rubin16 said:
I also don't care for politicians, they are all liars and can't be trusted as I find with most neurotypicals these days.
As a neurotypical, I find your insight to my prolific lying and untrustworthyness astounding. I mostly go under the radar. 🙄
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No offence, but I don't get on with neurotypicals much, they don't understand me and I don't understand them. Everytime I have had a friend or someone who isn't on the spectrum it always causes problems so I normally surround myself with people on the spectrum. All my friends are autistic and apart from this forum I try distance myself away people who are neurotypical.
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Let's continue to keep this civil folks. Just a gentle reminder. 😉
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My dad has been a manic depressant all his life its horrific hes on god cant say how many meds over the years battled addictions debt my memoriesof him sitting smoking 60 a day drawn curtains the house in squalor he'd roar with pain of living hands on his head allbthe time sobbing couldn't work hold jobs relationships friendships crippling anxiety he used to be targeted as he was very unkempt kids at shops would mock him id have to go and have it out with the bullies its very very painful and deep rooted for some people hes 80 now how he made it to 80 god knows he still has days of sweeping depression stares into space or just sits there always so sad looking me mine is crippling anxiety always fearing bad things will happen its truly an infliction truly is ps im convinced hes undiagnosed adhd some people lives are blessed and some are truly cursed or ruined by care givers from early age oh and he jumped in river Thames after my mum left love his humour he said one side he was drowning next side rats was kicking him out mental health is a vile cruel devious disease that some people have to constantly battle even going to the toilet can feel so overwhelming
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I need some help here from an advisor that knows this system.
I was awarded pip max both types for life four years ago.I had a car accident through developing epilepsy while driving that was not previously diagnosed and suffered brain damage. partial paralysis on one side as a result, It was noted that while in hospital I had a heart problems. I have inflammation of the heart from rheumatoid arthritis and this has also caused joint pain and problems along with I don’t know what else as falling apart rapidly. Epilepsy is worse now than before.
Presently on 21 pills a day plus GTN spray as the angina is not controlled plus steroid inhalers on top of the other pills for epilepsy and the heart. Will probably be on full time oxygen at home as of tomorrow as struggling to breathe for the past few weeks and now UC want a phone interview tomorrow with no notice.
Good thing it is not at their office as no public transport here and a taxi is £65 one way to them.I was Called in other week short notice to prove who I was while switching to UC. Now they want a phone interview tomorrow after CAB assured me this would not happen.
The DWP already have court official documents to show brain damage and that I have brains of a goldfish from years ago plus all scan results and medical reports plus prescription copies and much more.
Any ideas as I am not going to remember tomorrow after it happens.
I have all medical and court papers but they don’t leave me alone.0 -
Hi @jonf, sorry to hear you're feeling stressed out about this. Have you only recently migrated to UC? It may just be a routine appointment to confirm that you have no commitments or do some final checks, sometimes they just need to do that to tick the right boxes and get your claim set up.
Do you have access to your UC journal online? Sometimes it'll tell you if there is anything coming up that they need to sort for you.
Hopefully the appointment is nothing to worry about and it'll all be sorted quickly.
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hi Rosie
my internet is very limited and slow. No phone lines here. I don’t have an online account as it was not set up that way. My problem, I do not understand the process. People see me and do not relate how bad my head injuries wete and still cause huge problems.
I do not believe that the UC people have a clue about my injuries as the DWP are not sharing my information.Used to stand in the rain so that people could not see my tears of pain. It is not that I cannot be bothered, I do not understand and the next day I cannot remember. It like dementia, good thing my phone can type.
Problems is when you look ok people assume that you are. If they only knew.
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It's really tough for anyone on the outside to understand a disability that may not be immediately visible @jonf, I totally understand why you wouldn't have much faith in the system too. If you have been migrated across from the support group you shouldn't need to prove your health again, but they may still need to check a few things for their system.
Hopefully it'll all be explained in the phone call tomorrow, I hope it all goes okay!
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I have my struggles like many disabled people and the pain keeps me alive.
I cannot be legally held responsible for what I say tomorrow and they know it so not sure why they are bothering.0 -
What you consistently seem to be saying across countless threads is if we cut PIP and out of work disability benefits and plow the savings into the NHS and Social Services, people who claim for anxiety and depression, etc will eventually be better off.
This is what the present and last government would have Joe Public believe.
It isn't true.
Depression and anxiety are not "the blues". They frequently have a neurological base as does autism.
People who claim PIP for these conditions can choose there own support be it psychological, social, or physical ( by which I do not mean a walk in the park.)
Bear in mind, also, that people with lives severely restricted by physical disability can become anxious and depressed. Psychological issues are not always primary.
You are an advocate for popularist politics.
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I'm autism as well as physically disabled. I don't understand you. If the stereotypical assumption that autistic people always have a special interest were true, I'd guess you're into exteme right-wing politics without the nous to realise the extent of the damage its "reforms" have the potential to cause.
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You've obviously never experienced severe anxiety and severe depression.
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Leave Rubin alone! This is way too personal and rather unsavoury.
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Rubin didn't have to join this thread. He does tend to upset people made vulnerable or more vulnerable by government policy and proposals. I wish him no ill.
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For me, the NHS needs complete overhaul. If they charge health tourists .who use it for free and disappear again. Mental health, the waiting list is over a year, my daughter is on it. I waited 2 years. As healthy minds couldn't help due for it being ptsd.
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