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MW123

If you signed the petition titled “Do not introduce Digital ID cards” and ticked “keep me updated,” you should have received an email this morning from the Government’s Petitions Office. I have read mine and recommend everyone does, as it includes the full response and next steps.

They are calling it your boarding pass to government. Not a card, but a credential. Not compulsory, except when it is. And with your passport safely in their hands, they will know when everyone comes and goes from the country.

It is not surveillance, they say, it is streamlining. Not a database, just a wallet. Not tracking, just seamless, secure, and quietly centralised. Not mandatory, just required for anything mildly useful.

Catherine21

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1072272#Comment_1072272

Im not signing up for it but I bet you have to get benefits

MW123

@Catherine21

Hi Catherine , just to clarify, benefits are explicitly included in the services covered by the new digital ID. Below is a direct excerpt from the government email I received today.

For example, the new digital ID will build on GOV.UK One Login and the GOV.UK Wallet to drive the transformation of public services. Over time, this system will allow people to access government services – such as benefits or tax records – without needing to remember multiple logins or provide physical documents. It will significantly streamline interactions with the state, saving time and reducing frustrating paperwork, while also helping to create opportunities for more joined up government services. International examples show how beneficial this can be. For instance, Estonia’s system reportedly saves each citizen hours every month by streamlining unnecessary bureaucracy, and the move to becoming a digital society has saved taxpayer money.

Catherine21

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1072272#Comment_1072272

Also alot of general public have never dealth with issues regarding the goverment as we have as community we have faced everything im seeing people quoting ECHR article 8 thinking that the law will help on this ?? Do you think there will be any legal cases i think not know alot of people are seeing the disregard they have for citizens the question is how long can we say no and whats the time scale they will throw everything at us i

Catherine21

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1072283#Comment_1072283

Oh god what to do ?

rubin16

I have done cybersecurity all my life and ethical hacking, I used to be in a hackivist group back when I was a teenager. I can guarentee if they go ahead with this decision, it won't take long for the system to be attacked and then the whole system will go down. No one will have access to anything, all your data will be stolen and during this attack you won't have access to sevices, bank accounts, money or benefits.

MW123

@Catherine21

You’re absolutely right, Catherine. Our community has long lived at the sharp end of bureaucracy. The question is not just whether we can say no, but how long we will be allowed to. The rollout is gradual, yes, but the dependencies are already forming. Passport control, benefits, tax records, each thread quietly woven into a net. They will call it “phased implementation,” but the reality is cumulative pressure. Opting out becomes impractical when every lifeline is tied to the system.

On the legal front, many are pointing to Article 8 of the ECHR, which is meant to protect our private and family life, as a safeguard. But the government is not calling this surveillance. They are calling it efficiency. And unless someone can prove real harm or lack of safeguards, courts may side with “public interest.” Sadly, precedent tends to favour systems over citizens.

Catherine, on the actual petition page there’s a link labelled “Show on map” which highlights where people have signed. The map is covered in red from top to bottom, millions have signed against it. That visibility matters. MPs will be well aware that their constituents are not happy.

I also know there have been cross party letters in government, with MPs from every party signing to show their opposition. I’ve emailed my own MP asking her to add her name. I don’t think this will go as smoothly as they’re hoping. They want it to flow quietly, but the resistance is already visible. Millions have signed, the map is red, and MPs know that quiet resistance can turn into electoral consequence.

Catherine21

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1072324#Comment_1072324

Oh great I will check that map out thankyou

Catherine21

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1072324#Comment_1072324

Ps This another battle im allowing the fear to go from me and doing whatever I can to make voices heard because I cannot be controlled yes we are to a certain point now but 24 /7 i can imagine them having meeting knowing we will not give our freedom up easily but fear is a very strong emotion so my advice is when everything is been thrown at us sit back and see them for who they are actors see the whole picture do what you can and if to much walk away take time out from it all dont let them bully you or rent space in your head

rubin16

https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/1072355#Comment_1072355

The trouble is cons are dead, labour has now shot themselves in the foot and alienated themselves from the country and theres no other party now other then reform next election. Reform are going to be 1000x worst, making the NHS private, cutting 15 billion from welfare and killing off what remains of the country after cons and labour started shoving knives in.

My point being we have 0 choice anymore on who to vote for. Not one party is for the country or the people in the country. Unless a new party comes in and is popular by next election the country is going to suffer.