REFORM HAVE SAID THEY WILL CUT ALL BENEFITS

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  • ColonelBlink
    ColonelBlink Community Member Posts: 784 Pioneering

    Does being a 'veteran' mean one is immune from prosecution, no matter what?

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,416 Championing
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,511 Championing
    edited May 9

    At least PIP should be safe - it's set in law as primary legislation and would take the house of lords to vote to change it - the standing government cannot decide to change it at a whim !

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,117 Championing

    Nothing is set in law for benefits and pensions, they are the law makers and they can change things on a whim.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,511 Championing

    PIP is set in law - if you care to check - its treated differently than ESA / UC etc

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 1,870 Connected

    I somehow doubt they'd care about a "minor" detail like that.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,117 Championing

    Changes to Personal Independence Payment (PIP) can be made in Parliament through proposed bills, which must be debated and voted on by MPs. Recently, the government introduced a bill that included changes to PIP, but after significant opposition, they decided to delay any reforms until a review is completed.

  • worried33
    worried33 Community Member Posts: 1,054 Championing
    edited May 10

    We at the point now, almost all parties are targeting health benefits.
    Tories and reform will probably reintroduce child cap on top of that.
    The only party who wants to protect social security now is the Greens.

    The real nasty thing about all this, is its being done at the same time as changes to the NHS, to make the NHS even worse e.g. the recent changes to referrals to make them even more rationed. I dont think this is coincidence, I expect there is a plan to require secondary care diagnosis, whilst at the same time making it harder to access secondary care.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,511 Championing

    Any changes would have to be a new law - passed by both houses - this takes years

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,117 Championing

    You said it was set in law?…I said the government can change that law and now you've just agreed?..They can change things on a whim with enough support. And the way things are going with the pressure on benefits and pensions, they probably will….You just don't have to paint everything so black in your threads. Cheer up and get out of the gloom.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,511 Championing
  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,117 Championing
    edited May 10

    I give up, you just want to live in doom and gloom

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,117 Championing

    We or I know what's going on, I'm old enough too have seen this before. I'm not ignorant as you say, I just don't keep sharing stuff like this on a disabled forum. If you and Wibbles like reform, then it's fine. People know what's going on( by the way, are you baller?)

  • Bluebell21
    Bluebell21 Community Member Posts: 3,288 Championing

    What wibbles has shared was issued in May 2024 and the next General Election will not be until 2029. A lot can change in five years.

    Reform are not the only party who will be targeting benefits.

    It is up to all the other parties to provide better charismatic leaders and policies that can connect with the people if they want to keep Reform out at the next general election.

    They have three years to do this.

  • ColonelBlink
    ColonelBlink Community Member Posts: 784 Pioneering

    I remember my granny saying that some people are only happy when they're miserable.

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 1,870 Connected

    I would've voted Green last Thursday if I'd had the chance.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,416 Championing

    Why don't they reduce pension age back to 60, Then there be jobs for younger people, and a lot of older people are on disability because of the pension age raised. Although jobs need to be found since reeves has managed to close places down

  • ColonelBlink
    ColonelBlink Community Member Posts: 784 Pioneering
    edited May 10

    Retirement ages are rising all over the world, because people are living longer. I know people locally who retired in their mid fifties, and are still out golfing and gardening in thier 80s, even 90s.

    A neighbour's father died in 2019, aged 99. He had still been out golfing at 95. This gentleman was a family friend, and he worked a butcher until 84, my own maternal grandfather until 77, in the very same butcher's shop.

    Many retiring now, they can expect several decades of relatively good health. Should the young workers with families support them from the age of 60? Not all will have fat private pensions.

    I even know a Scope member who would still be working if they could, pension age or otherwise!

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,117 Championing

    They will make cuts to promote their green products

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,117 Championing
    edited May 10

    Lower pension age. Nice theory if it worked…But who ever get in will do exactly as Reform, this will include PiP.

    It's unmanageable as it is, eventually there'll be no state pension, that will be privatised and if you can't afford a good one, then it's tough luck. I did read somewhere, that if we have to go to war, nothing would be paid, just necessary income to get you by. There would no such thing as Pip at all, all monies would be used for military purposes.