REFORM HAVE SAID THEY WILL CUT ALL BENEFITS

LIVEDANDLEARNED
LIVEDANDLEARNED Community Member Posts: 153 Empowering
edited May 1 in Current affairs

As it comes up to voting time, please remember that Reform boldly and proudly say they are going to significantly cut benefits, especially to those who are receiving health benefits. They will make ALL assessments for benefits face to face with no exceptions. Reform also want to move to an insurance system (like the US has) rather than the NHS. 

Conservatives are doing the same. Kemi has specifically said she’s going to significantly cut the welfare bill.

Please vote and vote with care because it will affect your care and others. 

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  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,120 Championing

    We've been here before to be fair, and the top and bottom of it is, they'll all cut the benefits. They'll even cut or tax pensions, there's no escape if you rely on the government for your income.

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 1,758 Connected

    And some people will vote Reform anyway because all they want is to "Stop the Boats", smh.

  • ColonelBlink
    ColonelBlink Community Member Posts: 741 Pioneering

    Constantly changing PM, it only has a destabilising effect on the markets. Chucking Starmer out isn't the solution, do you agree?

  • LIVEDANDLEARNED
    LIVEDANDLEARNED Community Member Posts: 153 Empowering

    @Catherine21 I don’t he’s lovely. The media have been doing everything they can to make people think he’s bad, he’s not. They don’t want a Labour government because Labour prioritises the poor and the other parties prioritise the rich. The media are rich so that’s why they do everything to make people believe he’s bad. He isn’t at all.

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 1,758 Connected

    Doing away with human rights? Won't happen, no Court in the known Universe would allow it.

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 8,481 Online Community Team

    Hi all,

    Just a quick message to say that the online community is bound by the charities commission not to be promoting any particular party during the local elections. It's totally fine to have an opinion on a party or politician and talk about policies and issues from each party. But please try not to encourage others to vote in a particular way.

    For example, you could say something like "think carefully about who you vote for because of [an issue]", but not something like "You must vote for [a particular party], they are our only option". I hope that helps make things clearer but any questions please shout ☺️

  • Stellar
    Stellar Community Member Posts: 460 Pioneering

    so in other words, if you're disabled and cannot work (what some would consider a "useless eater", the government will eventually kill you off.

    that outcome is only inevitable under the current system that reform supports.

    all the more reason to demand better, including socialism. that starts with voting for candidates/parties that oppose everything Reform stands for.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,120 Championing

    We can't go back to a persistent change of prime ministers. it just destabilise the country and economy. We only have to look back at the last government and it did them no good at all.

    We need to think before we jump or change, everything is up in the air because of the Iran war and it will continue for at least another year. The more the USA threaten other communities, the worse it gets.

  • LIVEDANDLEARNED
    LIVEDANDLEARNED Community Member Posts: 153 Empowering

    @SoapySoutar i do agree. I’m definitely voting Labour, out of all the parties they will definitely he the kindest with the disabled and I actually think the media are doing everything on their power to make people dislike Keir but I think he’s doing really well and has integrity.

  • JasonRA
    JasonRA Community Member Posts: 315 Championing

    There is going to a raising of the bar in regards of PIP/UC Health Element.

    There is going to be more scrutiny on so called "mild" depression/anxiety - they are being scapegoated in the media over and over again, Fraser Nelson (He's made a career out of bashing people on benefits as of late, a real nasty piece of work), Telegraph, Daily Mail blame them for rising PIP claims ect.

    Labour have already halved UC's health element sans the most severe cases, they're going to reform PIP with the Timms review.

    The Tories and Reform can say "I'm going to cut welfare to save Zillions" and if they get into government real world consequences occur, legal ramifications and public opposition always pushes them to moderate or water down plans.

    Get evidence, create some sort of a dairy of your disability, engage with medical professionals, keep visiting sites like this for support and do not go into despair. Nobody can palm off someone with evidence right in front of them, not even a PIP assessor, UC assessor, Reform, Tories or Labour.

  • ColonelBlink
    ColonelBlink Community Member Posts: 741 Pioneering

    Those with mild disabilities can hopefully be properly supported and helped into work. There is no use removing benefit entitlement, and expecting a miracle.

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 1,758 Connected

    Indeed, Mr Starmer has his faults but he's been telling our American Lords and Masters to get lost, and hasn't backed down on current policies, I kind of respect him for that.

  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Community Member Posts: 1,120 Championing

    I haven't a clue what you're on about,you're making things up as you go a long. I never said anything about disabled or working?.

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 5,436 Online Community Team

    Morning everyone. Appreciate it's an important subject so we've got strong opinions but just a gentle reminder to please keep things civil.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Community Member Posts: 460 Pioneering

    cutting all benefits will kill disabled people who can't work. that's just one of many inevitable consequences that people don't think about.

    ironically, this is exactly the kind of ignorance and/or omission parties like Reform rely on because they know how upsetting this cold, hard reality is to most people. Hence, people like me have to spell this out regardless of who says it.

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 1,758 Connected

    Some people are aware of that but will vote Reform anyway as their main "thing" is stopping the Boats.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,442 Championing

    Starmer threatened them with this mandleson vote. And also he prosecuted veterans. Him and that awful hermer. So I do not trust any party

  • SheffieldMan1976
    SheffieldMan1976 Posts: 1,758 Connected

    I trust that evil Witch Rachel Reeves about as far as I could throw her.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,499 Championing

    Yes and they won't even say how they intend to do that - only what they intend to do to the immigrants - ie) lock them up, after withdrawing UK from "Every international treaty that prevents this country from being able to secure its borders."

    Their Policies DO NOT even mention "benefits" or "disability"

    https://www.reformparty.uk/policies