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Hi, my name is 100clive! pip result

100clive100clive Member Posts: 21 Listener
edited October 2017 in PIP, DLA and AA

i have recived my tribunal reasons for a negative result -- it is worded so I just don't understand it 

is ther a way of getting someone who understands this stuff to explain it to me in plain language

thanks clive

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  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Have you tried CAB ?
    It would be a lot easier to explain with the SOR to read

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • 100clive100clive Member Posts: 21 Listener
    believe it or not the only cab in Birmingham is not disabled friendly there is no disabled parking and there is a flight of stares  and your not allowed to use the disabled wheelchair lift if your on crutches
  • steve51steve51 Member Posts: 7,175 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @100clive

    Welcome to our online comunity/website.

    We have got some benefit advisors here on our website.

    I will forward your post to them to see if they can help ??

    Hi @BenefitsTrainingCo

    Can you please offer me some help with this post ???



  • Lynne53Lynne53 Member Posts: 52 Courageous
    Hi 100Clive I do believe it, the assessment centre I have to go to uses the second floor so if  say I can't get down 82 steps in an emergency I have to get to a different town. GP won't write letters for home assessment. Does the report have a lot of abbreviations in it, I get stuck with them!  There are on line sites specialising in helping with PIP and ESA one of them would help I'm sure as I've had recent help with a PIP Tribunal from them.
  • 100clive100clive Member Posts: 21 Listener

    i just need someone to read the letter and make some sence of it I have read it several times and its full of contradictions  its full of irrelevant info and its hiding the reason -- eg mr jones is hard of hearing --whats that got to do with my mobilerty -- I still say they are using the info from the pip assessor which is a lie on most parts


  • Lynne53Lynne53 Member Posts: 52 Courageous
    At my husband's Tribunal we tried to bring up the assessor's descrepancies but we weren't allowed. The assessor wasn't there and it wasn't discussed further.
  • 100clive100clive Member Posts: 21 Listener
    that's what happened at my tribunal -- they completely ignored what I said about the assessor she lied  about my answers  I told the judge she had manipulated my replys -- she even described me as a strong muscular man  I am 27 stone no way she could describe me as muscular
  • Lynne53Lynne53 Member Posts: 52 Courageous
    I am not experienced or qualified enough to be able to offer you any advice. I don't know your age but when I needed some advice and was getting desperate I rang Age Concern who explained things.They also managed to get a CAB appointment for me. I know that Benefits Advisors are on here sometimes. Possibly a phone call instead of a visit to CAB might help. I know that the way they word things is not easy I spent many hours getting ready for my husband's Tribunal. I hope that someone can help make things a bit clearer.
  • 100clive100clive Member Posts: 21 Listener
    i was hoping for someone on here to help me  iam totally unable to understand the wording on the letter  its all double talk to me --oh and I am 56
  • Lynne53Lynne53 Member Posts: 52 Courageous
    Age concern have been really helpful, I think you just have to be over 50 so you could give them a call. Good luck.

  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    100clive said:
    i was hoping for someone on here to help me  iam totally unable to understand the wording on the letter  its all double talk to me --oh and I am 56

    Without seeing it it is impossible to try. Do you want to post it on here for all to see ?

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • 100clive100clive Member Posts: 21 Listener
    is there someone I can come to and let them read it
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Lynne53 said:
    At my husband's Tribunal we tried to bring up the assessor's descrepancies but we weren't allowed. The assessor wasn't there and it wasn't discussed further.
    The tribunal is only interested in how you fullfil the criteria. They do this independantly without the bias of the DWP. They will have looked at all the evidence and seen the discrepancies between the two sides.
    Any complaint about the assessor should be made to their proffesional body, AP and or the DWP

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • AlexAlex Scope Posts: 1,324 Pioneering
    @100clive Could you read it out to someone over the phone?


  • 100clive100clive Member Posts: 21 Listener
    i have tried to contact scope via the phone for days never got thru allways engaged --- its a long letter its 4 pages  all full of erelevent stuf but nothing in plain language -- even my friend had a look and could not work it out  lots of words but no clear answers in it
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Have you tried Age UK ?

    Another possibility is the plain English foundation

    https://www.plainenglishfoundation.com/editing

    CR

    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • 100clive100clive Member Posts: 21 Listener

    i thought this site was surposed to help people   all I seem to get is go somewhere else  try these or them 


  • AlexAlex Scope Posts: 1,324 Pioneering
    Hi @100clive,

    Sorry, we're doing the best we can to find a way to help you. Our helpline is very busy, so it can be hard to get through.

    @Debbie_Scope any ideas? 
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    What else can we do to help in this case ?
    Without seeing the document, nobody can explain it in plain english for you. Please let us know how we can help you with this

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • 100clive100clive Member Posts: 21 Listener

    is there a solicitor I can go and  see that's not to expencive  I need this sorting I am running out of time I only got 3 weeks left to get a request for a upper tribunal in

    all the problems I am having was caused by the assessor who lied and changed my answers to suit them

  • Debbie_ScopeDebbie_Scope Member Posts: 947 Pioneering
    Hi @100clive,

    Sorry you've not been able to get through to the helpline this week. 

    There is Birmingham Law Centre and they can help with Upper Tribunal appeals. Legal Aid might be available for this type of appeal but BLC will confirm this. See their information about Upper Tribunal appeals.

    I hope that you can understand that this is a very complex area of law and requires legally qualified advice. Welfare Benefits advice was completely removed from legal aid back in 2013 so it's really hard getting free legal advice. The places which offer it, are usually inundated. This is completely out of our control and advice services up and down the country are under enormous pressure, I can't stress this enough. What's great about this community is how we all come together and try to help. We don't always have the answers but the support and a kind word is always on offer. I understand how frustrated you are about your situation and we feel for you and will try to help you as best we can.

    If you're not able to get help from Birmingham Law Centre or anywhere else, I would be willing to go through your letter with you and see if I can help explain why the tribunal made their decision. As CR has stated, the tribunal looks at how you fulfil the criteria and ensures the correct laws have been applied. They are independent so will have studied all of the evidence very carefully before reaching their decision. That's not to say you don't have a case but without seeing what the letter says and how they reached their decision, it's impossible to advise.

    You can contact me directly at the helpline by emailing [email protected], mark your email for me and it will be forwarded to me. I can arrange to call you and we can talk it through.

    Best wishes
    Debbie
  • 100clive100clive Member Posts: 21 Listener
    Debbie  is there no way I could see you face to face I am useless with computors  last time I sent an email I sent it to myself 
  • MatildaMatilda Member Posts: 2,616 Disability Gamechanger
    @100clive

    You could make an appointment to see your MP at their surgery and ask them to explain the letter's contents to you.
  • Debbie_ScopeDebbie_Scope Member Posts: 947 Pioneering
    100clive said:
    Debbie  is there no way I could see you face to face I am useless with computors  last time I sent an email I sent it to myself 
    I'm sorry @100clive but we're unable to give face to face advice. I will private message you and see if we can arrange a telephone call instead.
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