Want To Educate PIP?

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  • Justice
    Justice Community member Posts: 194 Empowering
    @DannyMoore Hi Danny I think they are more interested in how your illness/disability affects you. Not sure about PIP but certainly on the form for ESA it does say that they do not want print offs from the internet, and I suspect that they will  not even look at them. I really wish you luck with your assessment, but if you think it is that easy to " Educate" the DWP, I am afraid you are on a hiding to nothing :-(. Getting them to tell the truth is hard enough.
    Take all the evidence you can get hold of regarding how you are affected yourself, not about the disease in general terms. Make sure you hammer home to them all the things you cannot manage to do because of your illness, and if it doesn't go your way, make sure you ask to see the assessment report, and the statement of reason from the decision maker, and if it contains untruths then complain in writing, I stand by what I have said in other posts about sending everything recorded, and keeping a copy.
    Having said all this I am not a welfare officer nor do I hold any qualifications, this is just from personal experience, so get all the support and help you can.
    Please let us know how it goes for you, fingers crossed :-)
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  • Nystagmite
    Nystagmite Community member Posts: 595 Empowering
    A warning - they ignore your medical evidence. For example, I had a letter stating I'm registered partially sighted; but because I didn't (because I have no idea where it is) a specific piece of paper stating the same bloody thing, it was assumed I could drive.  My other disabilities and the medication I'm on, make driving unsafe.

    You have to spell everything out to them.

    They will assume that if you use Facebook, you can socialise without difficulties. This is despite my friend saying that the only time we've gone away, I had a meltdown and I've lost count of the amount of times I've walked out because it's too loud. (they claim I have no hearing difficulties - ENT letter states the opposite)
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    Nystagmite Community member Posts: 595 Empowering
    You can mention your worst days. But you have to make it clear it's a bad day and not a normal day for you.
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    @DannyMoore Sorry but you are wrong to think that if you tell the truth they will be truthful in return. It doesn't work like that in the PIP world. Assessor's lie, that's a fact and they do it regardless of how truthful you are. They treat everyone as if they're lying so although I applaud your moral stance which are the same as mine I don't want you wondering what you did wrong if your Face 2 face doesn't go well. Be warned..   
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  • wildlife
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    @DannyMoore I hear what you're saying and I know there are honest assessors but because there are also dishonest ones who aren't going to be truthful just because the person they are assessing is telling the truth, that was the warning I was trying to give. I wasn't saying that you or anyone else shouldn't tell the truth at all times. By the way the DWP case workers (decision makers) don't have any medical knowledge therefore can't be exposed as not having any. It's the private assessment companies that do the assessments that use health professionals. They can't possibly know about all medical conditions but can be expected to read and use information they are given by the DWP that claimants have sent in as evidence, and use what they are told by the person they are assessing. Unfortunately they don't always do this. I really hope this doesn't happen to you.    

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