Pip review

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Freckles I wonder if it will include all the people who, unfairly have lost their awards .0
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I dont no but i will fight the charlatans all the way i think we have all had enough now of the way pip/esa assesements are done how can an assesesor make judgement on a persons disability or mental health when they dont no you like your GP or consultant no you they can tell total lies about you at your assesement i think GP,s or consultants letters/reports on any disability or mental illness should be enough to support your case but this is,nt always the case the DWP like you to go through these humiliating assesements and then some DWP decision maker makes the wrong decision so hey ho more stress and anxiety pilled on top of you because you have to send a letter for a MR if that fails then a tribunial its all to make us feel down trodden2
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freckles just been reading this ; If you are going through a reconsideration or appeal, you or someone supporting you might want to reference these changes to make sure that the person making the decision takes them into account. My Reconsideration is being dealt wit I'm keeping my fingers crossed and my toes ,according to my assessement report I can stand on my left feet and raise my right legs ,0
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I have watched the whole PiP debacle unfold for some time and watched the select committee examination of Atos and Capita with great interest. Were it not for Brexit PiP would have been a major scandal, as it is Media preoccupation with Brexit has relegated PiP to a relatively uninteresting sideshow with much of the scandal passing by almost unnoticed. We learned that the DWP had a secret internal target of accepting assessments unchecked but at the same time regarded 55% of Atos, 45% of Capita assessments as unsatisfactory. Was this simply a way of training both companies to submit Assessments that were unfavourable by any pretext. The high success rate at the final Tribunal stage suggests the tactic worked all too well. I seriously doubt the review of 1.6m claims will fare any better and I find the reaction to the 'profit warning' issued by Capitas so soon after the review was announced with great scepticism. I rather suspect it was simply a warning to the Government that if they expect that Company to assist the review in any way it will cost.
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Salamka101 slightly off topic but you may know the answer . My PIPaward was reassessed and downgraded to NIL POINTS . on reading the decision makes reasons it states that she has changed the descriptors choices previously chosen ? I have no idea if she means the recent assessors choice descriptors , or the descriptors from my 2014 assessment . Am in the reconsideration stage and am confused .0
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I think it mite mean what you put on your original form0
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freckles Thanks . Trouble is I do not have a copy of my assessment in 2o14 . I only have the decision makers letter and the award enhanced care standard mobility , .scored only 2 point on recent assessment and that was because I had physical proof wearing my hearing aid . Have asked dwp to expand on this and am awaiting reply . The whole process is so stressful if no reconsideration I will not attempt tribunal , my health is suffering already .
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Its so hard the goverment and dwp really dont care about the stress and anxiety it causes thats on top of the already stress and anxiety a lot of this will be put under the carpet cos goverment are more interested in brexit instead of anything else whats going on.... 1.6 million pip cases to be reviewed they wont rush that i like you am sick and tired of all this hassle trying to get the right benefit0
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Freckles you are so right , just another thought not having a copy of my report 2014. I am now thinking have the actual descriptors changed since 2014 ?. If so then the Dwp should surly use the old descriptors as it is not a new application and my award was to run until july 2018. I'm going round in circles .0
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The descriptors that apply are those in force on the day of the assessment. it would seem that the DM disagreed with the assessors recomendation. Do you have a copy of the assessment report ?
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I photocopy my medical form before i send it back0
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@dottydotty Regarding your legs do you have 2 of each? According to your assessor you appear to have more than the usual 1 of each. Seriously though I agree with @freckles that signed headed medical evidence should be enough. It would also save a lot of money. The only exception being those who refuse to engage with anyone medical or indeed anyone who could verify their disability. We have an adopted son with LD and serious mental health issues which could and have harmed himself and others in the past. I was his appointee in 2011 when things were different and I was able to provide evidence without him knowing. For ESA I didn't go with him to his assessment and he scored 0 points. No MR then on to Tribunal which I did attend. The evidence I provided before hand got him 47 points even before they'd interviewed him. PIP was easier then as they took ESA into account, but now I fear he would lose both if reviewed. So I do know there are exceptions who have to be assessed but this should be done honestly and with consideration that people do not always fit into the set criteria. So not being able to provide evidence does not mean there is no disability and for these people an assessment is vital to have a fair and just outcome. The way things are at the moment is barbaric and smacks of the days when the disabled were hidden in back alleys or mental hospitals. This is 2018 and we're supposed to be a civilized society. My own claim is far from settled with an early review to come in 2 years time and Standard rate DL through the lies on my report. Keep fighting @dottydotty it will be more stressful to give in as the injustice will eat away at you.This is only my advice and may not be right for you but I know how I feel when I've backed down and how good it feels to not let them get away with this.0
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Wildlife your spot on keep fighting dottydotty keep fighting1
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Wildlife Yes I have several legs , exact quantity unknown ,also I have an unknown quantity of feet " I can stand on my left feet " etc Thankyou for all the replies and comments , so it looks like the decision maker has changed the assessors descriptor choices , ive been pinning the blame ,on my assessor as the report was full of lies errors , so if he had made a truthful report I would still not have gained any points .. its a no win situation . The decision letter was written on a Sunday Jan 7th , Wonder why they were working on a Sunday ? Final question if I could drive would that lessen the need for my being able to walk ?0
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Yeah my assesement was done on a wednesday and assesesors report done on a sunday unless they take it home sit there with a brew playing eney meney miny mow0
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freckles that made me laugh . Are you in the tribunal stage ? or have you now received your award? .Mine is a reconsideration and just hope they take into account the new ruling . I might drop them a line to remind them . my recorded delivery costs are mounting up .
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apologies for all the questions , if my reconsideration fails , how soon can I reapply for PIP . also on back of my assessors report it says no functional impairment . ( should have gone to Specsavers ) review again in 8 years . does this mean I have to wait 8years .
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I sent my MR on wed 31st jan via special delivery it was signed for by the same person as last time and the time before that and the time before that you rite it costs a small fortune to send stuff in my enitial reward is till 2022 but they will reassese me one year before i have done my MR cos after the last two assesements i was given enhanced rate but this time standard rate but all my health conditions have got worse0
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@dottydotty Sorry I can't answer your questions except to say wouldn't going to Tribunal be far less stressful than re applying and going through what you've been through all over again? Especially bearing in mind you'll have plenty of time to prepare yourself and you will be facing people with no agenda? Your chances of success would be much higher than another application that would be very likely to fail as it will be reviewed by people who know they've already turned you down. Just something for you to think about. I think most people on this forum would say the same..0
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Thankyou for replies .Am trying to weigh up hte odds , Don't think I have much chance in either tribunal or to reapply as I reach 65 in Aug , that is why I'm trying my hardest to overturn the decision . so it runs at least until June when my award should have ended . Failing this I could applyfor AA but no mobility component . Any Tips on what more I can send to DWP . I got the CAB to draft my first correspondonce outlining my disagreement and why . . Have sent loads medical reports and future hosp appointments , My friend has written a statement .I have not mentioned much about the assessor other than the fact I have lodged a full complaint with Capita and sent the letter / reply I received from Capita Should I go through the report with a fine tooth comb and highlight ALL the discrepancies . errors , med errors . treatment errors etc .or will they not be interested . thanks your replies are keeping me sane .0
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