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Do assessors spy on these sites?

sandyp196sandyp196 Member Posts: 133 Pioneering
I need to access these sites but I'm scared as well. OK I do suffer wih paranoia as part of my illness.  I accept that and which is why i am able to ask the question.
The dwp are a source of great anxiety for me. I want to ask advice about a few things but I have also convinced myself that the dwp, atos and capita spy on these sites and perhaps even masquerade as 'genuine' community members. 
How likely do you think this is? Please don't tell me I'm being silly. I can't help it. I just need to find a safe site for myself as I have a feeling I will be facing a battle. 
I wrote about my pip assessment last week and felt I exposed myself as I gave specific details that the assessor couod identify me with. 
Iv been scared to come back here and scared that iv damaged my assessment chances by my cynicism towards the assessor and the fact my dog bit her. 
I just feel so low atm and have done ever since the assessment and about a month before it. 
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    It wouldn't concern me if they did. What I have written here is the truth, and so is my application. 

    Nobody knows which part of the country you are from, whether you are male or female, your age etc.  I don't see this place as unsafe, but obviously you wouldn't share things that could identify you if you were concerned. 

    As an aside, I do wonder if it's a good idea for people to use their photographs as their profile which can identify them.

    To be honest although I read that thread I can't remember who it was.
    Most of us have memory problems.  :)
    Do not follow me, I don't know where I am going.
  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    I would say yes and I'm not paranoid just realistic.
    Councils look on Facebook to get a handle on whats hat and who's who so I'm pretty sure the DWP would.
    Don't give your real name or where you live you should be fine.
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  • lindadeniselindadenise Member Posts: 302 Pioneering
    If they do i hope they have a guilty concious its disusting the way they
    Treat us. Im sick of it 
  • dee4848dee4848 Member Posts: 218 Pioneering
    Well they are human just like us 
  • deb74deb74 Member Posts: 683 Pioneering
    londadenise is right!!! they are resposible for many people loosing benefits they are entitled to.
  • deb74deb74 Member Posts: 683 Pioneering
    sorry lindadenise. i spelt your name wrong
  • wilkowilko Member Posts: 2,182 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes they do,DWP, councils, employers recruiting firms all look up some individuals to find out a bit more about them to confirm who they are friends they have type of life style they live. So don't worry about it if you are genuine, honest and nothing to hide then carry on remember all town centres shops have CTV surprising how much we are being watched.
  • lillybellelillybelle Member Posts: 458 Pioneering
    How would they know who you are unless you put your name, age , etc 
    Nobody knows who I am 
    so don’t worry
  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    Well if any are reading this I just burnt my fingers checking if something was cooked. 
    My poor pinkies are very red pink! But, in fairness I did say and get awarded for the can't cook. I just thought I would have a go. 

    I actually did get a nice honest assessor. Probably a rarity rather than the norm. 

    If anyone knows who I am tell me, because I often forget myself!
    Do not follow me, I don't know where I am going.
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  • charlenecharlene Member Posts: 555 Pioneering
    Lol Sandy, I thought that. Then I thought so what, how can they possibly know who I am. Hundred if not thousands of aessors.  Please stay I with  the group, just stay safe, no real names, where u live etc. 
    When the going gets tough, the tough get going.
  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    I'm from Mars so probably not entitled to claim being a Martian. Though it says you must be resident for xx years so I figured it was ok.
     B) 
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    Victoriad said:
    Hey @whistles
    I see you’ve got the sunnies on........Is it summer where you are on the Red Planet?

    Yes. It's always hot here. I think, just a second where is Mars in the solar system. Can't tell porkies if I don't know. 
     :D 
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    Victoriad said:
    Hi @charlene
    Personally will keep on posting as it makes me smile reading the banter.........Geez what else do we need to worry about as I’m sure the DWP will get enough overtime checking up on on these undesirable aliens from Ruskies to Martians!

    On a serious side someone did share a link to the disability magazine. It said they were asking gyms etc to send them footage of claimants. 
    You will get some fraud I guess. 
    But soon breathing will get you 0 points. 
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    Milky Way , Galazy. Mars, chocolate. Nom nom.
    Googled Mars. It's next door, I haven't traveled far. 

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  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    Victoriad,
    thats why Iv stopped going on Facebook, its not safe and depending on your settings, anyone can look at your posts, photos anything.

    it also makes my anxiety worse
  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    Victoriad said:
    Hello all
    Watching aunty BEEB......facebook is the most dangerous site if all.....Labour Analytica company accused of harvesting millions of people’s profiles!


    You won't find me on it. Hate it. 
    I can't help thinking how many people will regret using it in ten years time or so.
    The net is still in its infancy really. On the one hand it's good as it's allowing us here to chat to fellow people. Not everyone can talk verbally, or hear, or sees a lot of people. So less isolating.
    The bad is it gets abused as most things can and I'm thinking of bullying and peer pressure. 
    If I were school age I would be on Facebook, guaranteed.
    Do not follow me, I don't know where I am going.
  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    FB is a threat to democracy.
    Governments and others can see what public reaction is to their policies in a way never before possible.
    They can gauge the mood of the population.
    They know what they can get away with how far they can push the population with their policies are the voting public apathetic and so on.
    The ones in power have more power than ever and may well be able to hold onto it forever!
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  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    In the past the priests knew everything about large swathes of the population.
    Now it's the information technology world.

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  • sandyp196sandyp196 Member Posts: 133 Pioneering
    Sorry I haven't been back for a few days. I'm not very well atm and had a rough few days worrying about everything from pip to the Russians.  I kid you not. Had a tweak in meds and feel a little better today.  
    Can I change my user name? It is vey similar to my real name. Practically I know I have nothing to hide. But there are days (frequently) where everything and everyone in my life feels a bit sinister. 
  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    Sorry thick question alert- is this ^^ social media? What does even mean!

    It's a fact that the police use it to track people. 
    You can like their page. Why would I want to do that! Your gp surgery probably has a page. Beyond me I'm afraid. I'm still in the stone ages of telephone, text and letter.
    The text reminder service- brilliant. 

    Potential employers will search on it though- fact.

    The sad fact is and it has be the result of the fraudsters, that the rest of us feel we can't have any sort of life. I have difficulties, I have issues, I never said I was in a coma! But yes there are days when I can't get out bed so yes maybe I am. 
    Do not follow me, I don't know where I am going.
  • louismc44louismc44 Member Posts: 2 Listener
    Of course this sh** Tory government will spy into your **** if they poke the head up in lava-Tory sheet hole
  • charlenecharlene Member Posts: 555 Pioneering
    Yes Sany you can. Have a look at the top of the to your right. I think it is a circle/ cog. Click on that, and of you go. Change name, add picture etc.
    When the going gets tough, the tough get going.
  • wilkowilko Member Posts: 2,182 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 2018
    Morning all.  I have wondered for years why people chose an email address using their own full name leaving themselves open to be stalked followed and easier to trace by entering their name on social media sites ect. Be careful what emails passwords you use!?
  • charlenecharlene Member Posts: 555 Pioneering
    promise you'd have problems spelling let alone pronouncing mine
    When the going gets tough, the tough get going.
  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    Paranoid now!!
    had the same email address for years!!
    im scared to do anything.
    getting tv fixed and wondering it the man is there to spy,, 
    seriously what is wrong with my head  :s
  • HenryHenry Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    Who  cares   who snoppes.  
  • charlenecharlene Member Posts: 555 Pioneering
    Oh Susan, so sorry you are feeling this way. Have to admit though, a few times recently I have looked around me to see if anyone was following.
    When the going gets tough, the tough get going.
  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    Charlene, 
    thanks. Every time I’m anywhere, even the garden I’m constantly thinking someone is watching. Even in the house I think someone is listening.
    it doesn’t seem rational but I can help it.

    need to tell doctor I think


  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    Iv nothing to hide from anyone 
  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    You can have as many email addresses as you like so use one for sites like this one for Facebook one for officialdom and so on.
    Never give away personal detais.
    I've been online twenty years and whenever I tick boxes about career income etc it's always been different every time.
    I'm a manual worker I'm apensioeber I'm a student I earn less than twenty five grand I earn more than a hundred grand.
    The reality is we live in a surveillance society now and the U.K is the worst.
    Eyeball recognition facial recognition finger print recognition if you use any of those on phones tablets PC's etc they will all tie up together in a datbase sothe street cameras will recognize who you are.
    It's a simple fact of life now.
    I only have a mobile phone for in the car for breakdown assist.
    It only ever comes out of the car for recharging.
    I don't make or recieve mobile calls.
    I don't sit in waiting rooms fiddling with some electronic appendage.
    Simply because I have no interest in being connected day and night.
    I stare at the walls or read Cheshire life when in the surgery waiting room.
    Old fashioned I know but I find it amusing and disturbing that so many of you need this stuff.
    FaceBook is like .... I went shopping today got some new shoes.
    Why would anyone want to know or tell such mundane garbage?
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  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    Some people are so attached to their devices they have become part human part machine.
    Tap tap tap all day long wherever they are.
    By the time some people meet up there is nothing left top say so they start tap tap tapping to people who aren't there with you.
    Infuriating!
    My kids have this mental affliction.
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  • BarbiesnemesisBarbiesnemesis Member Posts: 86 Pioneering
    Perhaps someone from the Scope team could reassure us? 
  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    I spend time in the real world and time in the virtual. 
    Being a book lover even my real world can be fantasy. 

    To change your name you need to ask admin. But if it bothers you, do it. 
    It's a mh condition if you are feeling everything and everyone is watching- if its beyond what the average person would. 
    I think anyone watching me would be so bored  :)  


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  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger

     hi whistles,

    I wish I could read again, no concentration, not read a book in 3 years

    yes its a mh problem but has it a name ?? as you know who really love labels !!!

    Im sure they wouldn't be bored watching you, probably wonder what you were reading


  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    I can only think of paranoia or delusions, but I'm no doctor. 
    If something interferes with my normal day to day living to the point it gets too much of head space, I think about setting someone. 

    My phobia in the first instance was very well behaved and you wouldn't believe what I started believing! 

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  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    Thanks whistles,
    iv got doctor on Friday will try and remember, I had to ask my friend why I was even going!!!
    I hope your well behaved phobia is still behaving.
    i overthink all the time, the psychologist says it remuneration.
    cant stop it 
  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    Heard of that term. 
    Yes phobia all resolved. But, it would only take something silly to set it off. I ry to avoid the news as my brain goes running on ahead.

    Just wrote to my gp about a recent change. Don't think I need to actually go- avoidance tactic there. But I don't expect them to do anything, I am trying to myself initially.  
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  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    Whistles,
    i wish like a lot of us my brain had an on/off switch, hence not sleeping without medication.
    im not going willingly if I’m honext, the last time she looked at me pityingly! 
    Like I was a small child 
  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    It was discussed about reducing my meds. It's up to me. So was just informing them I was.

    Though I added the immense stress of the all the pip stuff. My award was a month ago, I need to be getting on with things again. 

    After all its SPRING today  :)
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  • sandyp196sandyp196 Member Posts: 133 Pioneering
    Can I just clarify my question wasn't about having anything to hide. That didn't even cross my minD when I wrote that question.  I worry about strangers.  I live alone in a rough area. Part of my condition is a predisposition for paranoia. I don't let people in my home.  Electric, gas, water meter readers... nonE are allowed in wihout a specific appointment that I check with theit employers. I'm scared of being murdered or worse. These govt agencies can check my movements and it makes me feel vulnerable to danger. Pip people hate me and the govt thinks I am a parasite and a drain on the economy and there is non point to me. They only need to have one psycho working as an assessor who has access to anyone's home. It's scarey. Why should a pip assessor be any different from any psycho posing as a gas meter reader?
    The world is a dangerous place and I am vigilant of my safety. This is the reason I asked the question as I let a stranger in my home who knows I live alone.
    We are all having to do that to try and get the assistance we need. But it also makes you vulnerable and it's not good to forget that. I don't.    
  • sandyp196sandyp196 Member Posts: 133 Pioneering
    I don't like being watched. A red car has been following me and i am convinved it was the assessor even though my famity say not. Iv been happy and safe in my anonymity for a while and now feel I'm on the government's radar again. I dont want to put myself in the firing line. I'm so stupid and careless sometimes and I over share and I can't take it back.  We are all under attack from the government and I'm not crazy in thinking that these sites are a way for them to get to us anD make us suffer even more. Why even have a disability benefit when the people who need it don't get it, but scammers get it easy enough. Maybe they should come here and tell us all how to 'work the system'.  
    I know a lot of you are strongend braverr than me and if there's enough people here fighting against them I will stay and take my chances with you all. 
    Thank you for helping despite being unwell yourselves. But be careful too as if assessor see the wonderful help on here they will tell you all you can work as counsellors and benefits advisors and joh centre staff and score you zero even though you don't have a chance in hell of gettig those kind of jobs!  Please beleive me they do this. 
    My poor dear neighbour had his car taken away and he can hardly walk at all. He couldn't even drive the car he is so unwell but his brother has a driving licence and would drive him around and where he needed to go.   This lovely proud man who worked hard all his life was crying and he didn't want to cry in front of people but couldn't help it.  I was crying too and his other neighbour as well. Im crying again now remembering that day. (Iv jsut been crying all day tbh). I told him about this site and to come here for help or the yourable site (although they can be a bit harsh on that site) about the tribunal but he has no Internet because it was cut off as he hasnt any money for it so I made things worse by mentioning it. 
     Its harD to know how to help anyone these days. Everythig Is so crazy and streasful wih the govt and the russians. 
    But thank you for your help here. I want to help too.
  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    It's not about whether you can get those jobs or not it's whether you are capable of doing the jobs were they offered.
    If you're capable then you don't need benefits that are for the incapable.
    I think I've had to spend around 16 hours a day on my bed this last ten days or so.
    I've spent a lot of time in my wheelchair when feeling more up to sitting upright.
    Next week I will probably be walking around for a couple of days but then I'll be back to dropping things lying down in agony and exhaustion.
    Not driven for quite a few days or even been to the shops.
    Simply not been out.
    Next week hopefully will be better but whatever I do I cannot sustain for any length of time meaning no job for me .... I'm disabled.
    I can't fake what's wrong with me.
    If you have assessors watching you then you best be honest.
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  • Pippa_ScopePippa_Scope Member Posts: 5,856 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi all,

    There have been some really good points raised here that I hope we can address. As this is a public forum on the internet, the information you choose to post in discussions can in theory be seen by anybody who chooses to access it. Therefore, it's important that we keep the community a safe and supportive place.

    There are many resources you can use to help to protect yourself and others online, which we recommend checking out. We also have moderators and safeguarding procedures so that if we think somebody has shared information which may put them at risk, we are able to inform them and remove it. 

    If you have any concerns about your safety using the Scope Community or about others' behaviour, please email [email protected].
  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    Victoriad,
    you have just covered a question I was going to ask about DVLA.
    im not sure whether or not my medication interferes with driving. Went on the website but it just says to ask the doctor about driving.
    iv not driven in weeks, scared to. The longer I don’t the more I don’t think I should
  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    susan48 said:
    Victoriad,
    you have just covered a question I was going to ask about DVLA.
    im not sure whether or not my medication interferes with driving. Went on the website but it just says to ask the doctor about driving.
    iv not driven in weeks, scared to. The longer I don’t the more I don’t think I should
    Your doc is supposed to warn you if your medication can affect your driving.
    Have words with him/her.
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  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    Thanks zoro,
    i will do it’s on my note for doctor.
    iv never been told anything about driving whilst on medication,
    just the label on the packets.

    i was going to email DVLA but was advised to talk to doctor first, I tend to rush into things especially when not feeling well 

  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    susan48 said:
    Thanks zoro,
    i will do it’s on my note for doctor.
    iv never been told anything about driving whilst on medication,
    just the label on the packets.

    i was going to email DVLA but was advised to talk to doctor first, I tend to rush into things especially when not feeling well 

    Don't email DVLA you could have your license suspended without cause.
    The medical driving assessment isn't a driving test it's an assessment so doesn't matter if you break the speed limit accidentally and so on.
    First is a coherency test to make sure you know who you are where you are can you count see properly interpret things correctly.
    That took about forty minutes then a one hour drive with two people in the car with mirrors to observe every angle.
    One in the back behind the passenger seat one in the front passenger seat.
    Both with clipboards no pressure then!
    If you turn up it's because you want to keep your license.
    I thought all I can do is just drive the way I usually do.
    But ... I would hide the pain.
    At the end of it they said they could see the pain I was in and well done for trying to hide it!
    The only negative thing was they said in three years time I would be reassessed in an automatic because that it what I would have to drive from then on.
    With the nerve damage in my spinal cord my left leg is getting weaker but I hadn't mentioned it and was amazed they spotted it.
    I'm on a very heavy opiate that you only get when morphine has failed so heavy stuff. Flew through the assessment.
    My opiate is Palexia (Tapentadol) ........
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    I think the issues here is when we feel under stress we don't make sensible choices. So don't make any at all, bar speaking to your gp.

    I am stressed re all this pip stuff, I have contacted my gp so they are aware that all is not as it should be just now. 
    We are entitled to feel what we feel, so I can allow some stress, if my brain really wants to have a party then it can knuckle down and move on.
    I do find this is where a diary helps. Write it down, get it out of your head.

    If you are feeling everything and everyone is watching, seek help because that sounds like a MH thing to me.
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  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    All this surveillance in the most surveilled population on earth (here in the U.K) is almost impossible to stop or change.
    When you vote at a general election you may well change the faces of the managers at the shop front but you never and can never remove the establishment so the spying goes on.
    The government haven't got much idea what the intelligence services get up to or in many cases what the police get up to.
    The royals remain as do the bishops the generals and the intelligence services.
    We can't vote thise people in and out.
    You can change the government but you cannot change or remove the establishment.

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  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    If a med pro says don't drive and you ignore that advice you're not insured.

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  • sandyp196sandyp196 Member Posts: 133 Pioneering
    I am on a lot of medication. I'm stressed atm. Today I don't care about the pip. It's exhausting and is making me unwell. Oh the irony.  
  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    Reference to driving its worth remembering that if you are applying for pip and you are arguing your case that you can't remember things, concentrate and you actually do have some cognitive / memory impairment- you can include your revoked license in the evidence.
    My personal opinion here is that people shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car if they are writing that on their forms and my assessor asked that question.
    I'm barely safe on the pavement!! A definite God no!!.
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  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    Whistles, Victoriad,zoro, 
    thanks, the main issue is anxiety which causes involuntary body movements/uncontrollable twitching and not sleeping.
    im not so bad in the mornings but haven’t driven myself for months.
    i will ask my doctor tomorrow.

    i definitely would not drive if I was told not too.

    have to wait and see

    thanks all
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  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    susan48 said:
    Whistles, Victoriad,zoro, 
    thanks, the main issue is anxiety which causes involuntary body movements/uncontrollable twitching and not sleeping.
    im not so bad in the mornings but haven’t driven myself for months.
    i will ask my doctor tomorrow.

    i definitely would not drive if I was told not too.

    have to wait and see

    thanks all
    I had very violent twitching but because of the tumours on my spinal cord.
    Gabapentin stopped it dead within a week.
    Maybe it could help?
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    Victoriad said:
    Thanks @whistles
    Never entered my mind to mention revoked driving licence....totally forgot to mention it in fact......you are a genius......a definite god?  Maybe ? ;) after your latest revelation regarding mention of revoked liscence on PiP

    From Mars.  :) 
    But it might help because the DVLA wouldn't take it off you for no good reason.
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  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous

    British Police Given Ability To Listen Into Our Homes Through Amazon Alexa

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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    That's Lancashire. It's actually an app that you activate for updates.
    It reads it out as it's said, not that far removed from the police emails you can sign up to, you just read them yourself.
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  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    edited March 2018
    And you can report crime over it meaning it can hear you.
    That's just a story about Lancashire police.
    It'll be happening everywhere.
    We live in a surveillance society and that's all I'm trying to point out.
    We also happen to live (uk) in the most surveilled country on the planet so yes people should be concerned and informed so they can act appropriately.
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  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    Victoriad said:
    zoro said:
    And you can report crime over it meaning it can hear you.
    That's just a story about Lancashire police.
    It'll be happening everywhere.
    We live in a surveillance society and that's all I'm trying to point out.
    We also happen to live (uk) in the most surveilled country on the planet so yes people should be concerned and informed so they can act appropriately.
    So the moral of the story is DONT use this technology
    DONT buy this technology
    DONT buy into the whole MUST HAVE this technology
    This also applies to SMART TV sets too and also applies to the settings on your mobile phone.

    Bit over the top.
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    It can hear you whilst you press the app. No more than a smart phone can track your movement on the gps or Google can suggest items for sale based on your search terms. 
    We are already the world's most watched country. Cctv everywhere.
    If you use any tech you are monitored because the developer wants feedback on how the product is working/ not working.

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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
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    I don't need all these gadgets. I can see how they would assist some. But if you are a capable person that can move and think for yourself, I would continue to so.
    The brain will slow down if it's not used. Gadgets that do your thinking is a no go unless I really can't survive.

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  • sandyp196sandyp196 Member Posts: 133 Pioneering
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    Thank you all for your kindness. I wasnt very well when i was making comments on this post. Im feeling a lot better now and it means a lot that noone made fun of me. Thank you.


      ndyp196 said:
    Can I just clarify my question wasn't about having anything to hide. That didn't even cross my minD when I wrote that question.  I worry about strangers.  I live alone in a rough area. Part of my condition is a predisposition for paranoia. I don't let people in my home.  Electric, gas, water meter readers... nonE are allowed in wihout a specific appointment that I check with theit employers. I'm scared of being murdered or worse. These govt agencies can check my movements and it makes me feel vulnerable to danger. Pip people hate me and the govt thinks I am a parasite and a drain on the economy and there is non point to me. They only need to have one psycho working as an assessor who has access to anyone's home. It's scarey. Why should a pip assessor be any different from any psycho posing as a gas meter reader?
    The world is a dangerous place and I am vigilant of my safety. This is the reason I asked the question as I let a stranger in my home who knows I live alone.
    We are all having to do that to try and get the assistance we need. But it also makes you vulnerable and it's not good to forget that. I don't.    

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  • zorozoro Member Posts: 66 Courageous
    sandyp196 said:
    Thank you all for your kindness. I wasnt very well when i was making comments on this posthreat to thet. Im feeling a lot better now and it means a lot that noone made fun of me. Thank you.


      ndyp196 said:
    Can I just clarify my question wasn't about having anything to hide. That didn't even cross my minD when I wrote that question.  I worry about strangers.  I live alone in a rough area. Part of my condition is a predisposition for paranoia. I don't let people in my home.  Electric, gas, water meter readers... nonE are allowed in wihout a specific appointment that I check with theit employers. I'm scared of being murdered or worse. These govt agencies can check my movements and it makes me feel vulnerable to danger. Pip people hate me and the govt thinks I am a parasite and a drain on the economy and there is non point to me. They only need to have one psycho working as an assessor who has access to anyone's home. It's scarey. Why should a pip assessor be any different from any psycho posing as a gas meter reader?
    The world is a dangerous place and I am vigilant of my safety. This is the reason I asked the question as I let a stranger in my home who knows I live alone.
    We are all having to do that to try and get the assistance we need. But it also makes you vulnerable and it's not good to forget that. I don't.    

    I think you should explain this as clearly as you just have to a CAB advisor.
    So that something can be worked out regarding you not being alone when you have to have people in the house.
    Regarding the government not liking you I doubt they are even aware of you.
    I've Spent years on the internet slagging off Anglo America Zionist foreign policies. Their lies their double dealings their mass murders and illegal wars.
    So I'm guessing I might pop up on their radar occasionally but there's two billion people online. Hundreds of thousands of them are saying even worse things than I ever said so I doubt they're all that interested in me at the end of the day.
    If you're just a useless eater as the elite like to refer to us none productive types you're like millions more .... unimportant at the end of the day.
    They won't be popping round with nerve poisoning for you.
    Seriously unless you're some kind of threat to the establishment thy aren't interested.
    When I say establishment I'm talking abut those who remain in positions of power and influence no matter how many times governments are voted in and out.
    Try and relax and consider having a chaperone from CAB.
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    They don't need to.
    If you are on Facebook or use Google they already have info on us. 
    Funny really how the invention of the smart phone has sneaked itself in the house, linked itself to all your devices and we think wow that's great.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/28/all-the-data-facebook-google-has-on-you-privacy
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
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    Yep you got it. 

    I just checked what Google had on my account. It provided me with You Tube videos that I HADNT looked at from 2015!!  
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
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    It just looks like Google and all related companies it has.
    You cannot run an IPhone or smart phone without a gmail account. 
    The playstore its all that company.

    As for Manchester those people were known from memory. They were being monitored I think? 

    I might download the data it has on me I think I will be shocked!
    Eta downloading it, it said it could take days to archive it all. 
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  • NystagmiteNystagmite Member Posts: 609 Pioneering
    But unless there's only one of you on Facebook (like there is with me) how do they know it's you? especially if your profile picture isn't you. 
  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 2018
    Your IP.

    Not that I'm bothered because what I what I look at is in relation to what I've heard, seen etc. 

    Will be interested when it's been downloaded though. 
    It contains- did a copy and paste.

     your +1s, Bookmarks, Calendar, Chrome, Classroom, Contacts, Drive, Fit, Google My Business, Google Pay Send, Google Pay: rewards, gift cards, & offers, Google Photos, Google Play Books, Google Play Music, Google+ Circles, Google+ Pages, Google+ Stream, Groups, GSuite Marketplace, Handsfree, Hangouts, Hangouts on Air, Keep, Location History, Mail, Maps (your places), My Activity, My Maps, Profile, Search Contributions, Tasks, and YouTube. 

    Curious now.  :)
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    Wow.
    This could take a while.  :)
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
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    Victoriad said:
    whistles said:
    Wow.
    This could take a while.  :)
    I take it that you are into techie gizmos and applications.......BIG style  ;)


    No. The opposite. It's barely got anything. 
    I saw my gp in 2016 ha ha. Used the phone calender once.

    158 pages of browser history. But that's barely anything?
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    Facebook isn't included. But I'm not on that anyway. 
    Interesting every email I have ever written is on it. Now that's useful because if you don't save the address, it's somewhere. 
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  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,603 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 2018
    Have you seen The Truman Show, recommended largely because it's a well written science fiction, the music is lovely- but it's a fiction that's partly realistic now with how some of us are being swallowed up with tech and allowing that to make choices.

    "We accept the reality of the world with which we're presented. It's as simple as that" 

    ^^ people don't query smart phones being connected to anything. It's the norm. 

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    It's a film from 1998. So available second hand. 

    Alexa will log everything that's ever requested.  :)
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