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ESA and Severe disability premium

kimbenson21kimbenson21 Member Posts: 15 Connected
Could someone give me some advice please. My husband claims ESA income related for both of us. He was awarded PIP enhanced on both in 2015, I was awarded PIP enhanced on both in 2016. My husband received a letter from DWP ESA a couple of months ago explaining that he will now be entitled to SDP (I hope thats right) should my husband have received this once he was awarded PIP and if so why did they leave it so long. Thank you.

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  • Pippa_AlumniPippa_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,851 Disability Gamechanger
    I wonder if @mikehughescq can help with this? 
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    If ESA IR was in force at the time then he should have received SDP from the date he was awarded PIP. As you are part of the claim you are also entiled to SDP

    Do you claim carers Premium for each other ?

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • ColourfullColourfull Member Posts: 59 Courageous
    Hi to All,

    What is S.P.D.

    Colourfull.
  • janejrjanejr Member Posts: 142 Pioneering
    Hi @Colourfull SPD is servere disability premium
  • pee14pee14 Member Posts: 108 Courageous
    edited March 2018
    @kimbenson21 Please read the GUARDIAN NEWS maybe it's that they owe thousands of brits the severe disabled premium.
  • kimbenson21kimbenson21 Member Posts: 15 Connected
    Hi CR
    Thank you for your help. We don't claim carers premium as I don't know anything about it also I have heard that if you make a new claim then you have to go onto universal credit, so I don't want to rock the boat. We didn't get the SDP until this year, so approx 2 years later. But I am very grateful for the extra money as it certainly has helped.
    Once again thank you for your help.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,002 Disability Gamechanger
    You won’t be making a new claim. SDP is just an addition to means-tested benefits. Double SDP should have been paid from the moment you got two lots of PIP daily living provided no other adults live with you.
  • kimbenson21kimbenson21 Member Posts: 15 Connected
    Hi mikehughescq, 
    Thanks for your help. Unfortunately I'm totall lost with all of this. I thought that even if you asked them to look into this, they would then put you in to universal credit, I know we all have to eventualy but our area isn't due to go over until next year, I also heard that you could lose some of the money you receive now, is this true?
    Once again thank you for your help.
  • kimbenson21kimbenson21 Member Posts: 15 Connected
    Hi pee14, I have looked at the guardian, it says it's for the people that went from income support to esa and only until 2014. We were on esa before we were awarded PIP enhanced, my husband in 2015 and myself 2016 but have only just received the premium. It's Just too confusing.
    Thank you for your help.
  • pee14pee14 Member Posts: 108 Courageous
    Yes I agree too confusing for me too
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi

    I would suggest that you get f2f advice from CAB, welfare rights or similar
    You could be entiled to a significant amount of money due

    CR

    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,002 Disability Gamechanger
    Only of you’re in a full service UC area. And you’re not from what you say.

    There’s no SDP with UC so asking them to add double SDP to your ESA only to find it triggers a UC claim that immediately takes it off you would be more than a tad ludicrous.
  • pee14pee14 Member Posts: 108 Courageous
    @mikehughescq just a question so if someone who claims carers allowance who is on income support , the person they care for loose their  severe premium on esa
  • whistleswhistles Member Posts: 1,590 Disability Gamechanger
    It's only being back dated until October 2014 when the court ruled.

    Just found a sentence that says " income related amount" my guess is that makes me IR. Who knows.
    Do not follow me, I don't know where I am going.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 6,002 Disability Gamechanger
    pee14 said:
    @mikehughescq just a question so if someone who claims carers allowance who is on income support , the person they care for loose their  severe premium on esa
    Depends on who lives with who and what other benefits they’re getting.
  • pee14pee14 Member Posts: 108 Courageous
    I live on my own @mikehughescq my daughter claims carers for me already and I get a bedroom tax paid because she stays with me for 4 nights of the week and I stay at hers 3 nights because I cannot be on my own . I just wondered if it was right that that's the reason the premium is taken away . And also why I'm on the subject of bedroom tax I have another bedroom I pay tax on but my daughter has a 2 yr old girl and a 14 year old boy who needs to stay too , so he uses the extra bedroom do I still need to pay for that bedroom because my Grandson has no other choice to stay because my daughter stays with me .I don't mind paying it but because he has to stay at my house the bedroom is getting used ...Thankyou for your help 
  • kimbenson21kimbenson21 Member Posts: 15 Connected
    That' What I'm saying @mikehughescq, I don' want to rock the boat by asking them to look at my husband's claim with regard to sdp. They will put people on uc in May if it's a new claim, but everyone else will go on to uc next year.
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    pee14 said:
    @mikehughescq just a question so if someone who claims carers allowance who is on income support , the person they care for loose their  severe premium on esa
    yes that is the way it works

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    That' What I'm saying @mikehughescq, I don' want to rock the boat by asking them to look at my husband's claim with regard to sdp. They will put people on uc in May if it's a new claim, but everyone else will go on to uc next year.
    That is why you must do it now, you are not rocking the boat you and your husband are entitled to the money.
    Please get help from CAB

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • pee14pee14 Member Posts: 108 Courageous
    edited March 2018
    pee14 said:
    I live on my own @mikehughescq my daughter claims carers for me already and I get a bedroom tax paid because she stays with me for 4 nights of the week and I stay at hers 3 nights because I cannot be on my own . I just wondered if it was right that that's the reason the premium is taken away . And also why I'm on the subject of bedroom tax I have another bedroom I pay tax on but my daughter has a 2 yr old girl and a 14 year old boy who needs to stay too , so he uses the extra bedroom do I still need to pay for that bedroom because my Grandson has no other choice to stay because my daughter stays with me .I don't mind paying it but because he has to stay at my house the bedroom is getting used ...Thankyou for your help 
    @CockneyRebel or any adviser can anybody advise me on this please I'm just concerned if I ring them they might tell me to down size which I don't want to I live in a nice area with lovely neighbours and my grandson will have to share a room with his mum and sister .Thankyou.
  • BenefitsTrainingCoBenefitsTrainingCo Member Posts: 2,692 Pioneering
    Hi pee14, 

    Yes, as your daughter claims CA for looking after you, you do not get the Severe Disability Premium. They are almost the same amount and paid for the same purpose - either the carer gets it or the disabled person gets it.
    With regards to the spare bedroom, you can only have a bedroom included for your grandson if he lives with you, and doesn't have another main address. 
    Your best bet is to apply for a DHP from your Local Authority. A DHO is a discretionary housing payment, which means that the LA will cover a shortfall in your rent if you can't afford it. They assess your affordability by asking you to complete a form and comparing your income and expenditure. In the LA where I live and work (Sandwell - inbetween Wolverhampton and Birmingham), anyone that gets PIP and applies for a DHP to cover the bedroom tax will automatically be awarded one, but that's not to say it's the same everywhere else. You might want to follow that up with your own LA's Housing Benefit department.

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    Lee
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