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should i ask for a pip review

deb74deb74 Member Posts: 754 Pioneering
i was awarded 18 points for daily living and given standard pip. i have since found out that that was enough points to get the enhanced rate. i have arthritis which is slowly wrecking my life. i have got from the lower spine downwards and has not gone into my wrists and hands. today i can't even straighten my fingers and walking is a struggle. i have read that if you ask for a review the amout you get could get reduced. is it worth it?

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  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi I’d have thought it would be enhanced with 18 points!

    id call PIP and ask the question but if your unable to then call CAB or another professional body.

    good luck
  • deb74deb74 Member Posts: 754 Pioneering
    thanks. i will talk to the CAB and see what they say.
  • sandyp196sandyp196 Member Posts: 129 Pioneering
    I recieved 17 points for daily living and I have been awarded enhanced rate of payment £83.10 per week. With 18 points I don't understand why you are only getting the lower rate. I would definitely query that because the enhanced rate has other benefits too if your on esa as well. 
  • shaziershazier Member Posts: 82 Courageous
    12 points or more entitles you to the enhanced rate a far as i am aware.
    Iv not heard of anyone getting the standard rate of daily living when 12 or more points are scored, an error at the DWP maybe? are you also in the support group of ESA?
    when is your next review? 
    Its confused me. 
    I would of phoned the DWP and queried this.
    You are never guaranteed the same outcome when being reassessed or filling a change in circumstance, cab will advise on this and others here with more knowledge than me will be able to advise you. Please correct me, anyone, if anything i have written here isn't right, please.































































  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi deb

    When did you receive your decision letter  ?
    Was the 18 points the HCP's recommendation ?
    Did the DM change the points recommended if so why ?

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • deb74deb74 Member Posts: 754 Pioneering
    thank for the comments. i have only just found out that i should of got enhanced pip. my esa was stopped in december and i was told i had to go on job seekers. i asked benefits people if i was still getting pip when my esa was stopped as i got confused by it all. i then got a letter from them saying that my pip was safe and that i had been awarded standard rate. my next review isn't until august 2021. i have got a case worker from the cab trying to get my esa back for me. i have been getting pip since august 2016 so if i question it now they may ask me why i didn't look into it sooner and see that i have been managing on the standard rate and not change it. i had an xray on my hands on friday and i have got a blood test tomorrow. life is getting more challenging as my athritis is getting worse. i am struggling with my hands and wrists now. sometimes i can't even straighten my fingers.
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi deb

    Can you clarify where the 18 points were awarded ?
    Was it by the DM in your decision letter  ?
    Or was it from the assessment report ?

    If you have been wrongly awarded then the CAB can sort this out for you as well,
    If it is an error by the DWP then you should be entitled

    Otherwise you have two choices
    1) wait for your review in 2021
    or
    2) put in a change of circumstance. This is sometimes a risk as your whole award will be looked at and you will have a new assessment

    As the CAB are working with you on ESA, they are the best to advise you

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • deb74deb74 Member Posts: 754 Pioneering
    i had an assessment by capta in 2016. call me stupid but what does dm mean. i thought all awards were decided on the assesors report. if i get my esa back i will leave things as they are but if they refuse it i will have to take the risk and ask for a review.
  • Tigermoth42Tigermoth42 Member Posts: 242 Pioneering
    Hi @deb74, DM means decision maker. The person at the DWP who has the job of working out your entitlement based on the Health Care Professional (HCP) assessment. Hope this helps 
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    ESA and PIP are separate benefits

    If you scored 18 points for daily living then this entitles you to the enhanced rate.

    Did you score any for mobility ?

    Have you got your decision letter for your PIP award ?
    If not you need to ask for a copy, without this it is difficult to challenge the decision if it is wrong

    We are here to help and support you in any way we can

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • deb74deb74 Member Posts: 754 Pioneering
    i know pip and esa are different. i got esa when i had an operation on my shoulder. i had a review in november for my esa and was told i was no longer entiltled to esa. the man asked me questions about my pip at the same time and gave me 0 points. the letter i was sent about the decision was confusing that was why i checked i was still getting pip. i have kept all of my letters from pip.
  • deb74deb74 Member Posts: 754 Pioneering
    forgot to say i scored 0 points for mobility.
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    Sometimes I think letters from DWP are deliberately confusing.
    But if your award letter says 18 points then you should be getting the enhanced rate for daily living. That is a lot of money that you have not received.
    Please take your PIP decision letter to CAB, they should be able to explain it to you and help you get what you are entitled to

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • Tigermoth42Tigermoth42 Member Posts: 242 Pioneering
    I had 16 points for mobility for two years (higher rate mobility on DLA for three) and they’ve decided in their infinite wisdom to score me 4 this time round. I’m exactly the same as I was, crippling anxiety when outside the house, can’t walk any distance without severe pain, falls etc. How they can assess your day to day struggles in 45 minutes is a mystery! I’ve asked for a copy of my HCP assessment - nine days and waiting! 
  • sandyp196sandyp196 Member Posts: 129 Pioneering
    deb74 said:
    thank for the comments. i have only just found out that i should of got enhanced pip. my esa was stopped in december and i was told i had to go on job seekers. i asked benefits people if i was still getting pip when my esa was stopped as i got confused by it all. i then got a letter from them saying that my pip was safe and that i had been awarded standard rate. my next review isn't until august 2021. i have got a case worker from the cab trying to get my esa back for me. i have been getting pip since august 2016 so if i question it now they may ask me why i didn't look into it sooner and see that i have been managing on the standard rate and not change it. i had an xray on my hands on friday and i have got a blood test tomorrow. life is getting more challenging as my athritis is getting worse. i am struggling with my hands and wrists now. sometimes i can't even straighten my fingers.
    They owe you back pay at least. You were entitled to it. I hope the cab get it for you and everything else you were entitled to. 
  • deb74deb74 Member Posts: 754 Pioneering
    fingers crossed. the cab will be able to help me.
  • deb74deb74 Member Posts: 754 Pioneering
    hi cockneyrebel. even the guy i spoke to about my pip was confused by the letter i had been sent. i am a bit worried that i have left it too long to question my benefits. i have been getting pip since 2016 but my health is getting worse so it is worth a try.
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    It is not to long if they have made a mistake
    Is there any way you can post a screen shot of your letter ? without your personal details of course
    i confess I am intrigued by your case

    CR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • deb74deb74 Member Posts: 754 Pioneering
    hi cockney rebel. i am a complete dinosaur when it comes to technology.  i haven't go a clue what a screen shot is.
  • susan48susan48 Member Posts: 2,229 Disability Gamechanger
    If you have an iPhone or iPad press the home button(at the bottom of the device)and the top on/off switch together. I should take a picture of the thing on your screen.
    x
  • shaziershazier Member Posts: 82 Courageous
    really sounds like a DWP error, I hope cab sorts this out for you fairly quickly.  It does sound like they owe you back pay.
  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    deb74 said:
    hi cockney rebel. i am a complete dinosaur when it comes to technology.  i haven't go a clue what a screen shot is.
    Lol so am I, I may know a little about some benefits but first time someone told me to re boot the computer I thought I had to kick it :)
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
  • WaylayWaylay Member Posts: 922 Pioneering
    I saw a post from someone else with this issue on a different forum a while back. She had 13 points for daily living, bit was only given standard rate. She didn't ask for a review; she just called the DWP and said that she thought there had been a mistake. She called about 4 times, and they eventually agreed, changed it to enhanced, and paid her backpay. Enhanced entitled her to an extra disability premium as well. 

    They didn't reassess her, just checked the mistake, but I don't know if that's what they always do. I suspect that the CAB would be the best to deal with this. You could also tell your MP. They can often help with this stuff.
  • deb74deb74 Member Posts: 754 Pioneering
    hi waylay. i think it is happening a lot! 
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