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debbiedo49
debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
I received a bundle of papers in a brown envelope this morning from dwp containing the paperwork for my pip application and appeal. There’s a letter with it. Is that all it is? I thought I would get a date with it? 
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  • Jurph
    Jurph Member Posts: 362 Pioneering
    Hi! We've spoken before - I think we started our appeals at the same time.

    Both Fibro zero points if I remember correctly?

    I think the tribunal date is told to you about 3 weeks before it happens. 

    I'm still waiting for my bundle - nearly 6 weeks now! I did ring HMCTS and the said the wait in my area in 44weeks!
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
    Yeah I remember . At the time I was undiagnosed with fibro just chronic pain but now I’m diagnosed I’ve got a gp letter to support my application. I had a sneaky suspicion I would be getting my bundle but don’t know what happens next. I can’t even look at it right now. I get help from SAMH and we started talking about me preparing for my hearing at my request so I’m ready for it as opposed to taken by surprise. I haven’t started yet but this will give me the kick in the but I need. So I just wait for a date now? Hope you get your bundle soon. 
  • Jurph
    Jurph Member Posts: 362 Pioneering
    Afraid so. It's out of the DWPs hands and into those of HMCTS.

    I haven't been able to find an organisation to help unfortunately. Looks like I'm going it alone.
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
    Have you tried citizens advice or money advice team? Ive been using council money advice team to deal with all the paper work. Though the worker I have is so patronizing I donr know why they are in the job. So Ive just asked for someone else.
  • whistles
    whistles Member Posts: 1,583 Disability Gamechanger
    Good luck with it all.
    Just found this thread. 

    Did you guys get any points from the MR to work with?
    Do not follow me, I don't know where I am going.
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
    I was told that you usually get a date in 6 weeks is that correct? Not sure who "you guys" are? @whistles
  • Jurph
    Jurph Member Posts: 362 Pioneering
    @Waylay I've gone past the despair stage and into the laughing at everything stange. That last bit tickled me!

    @whistles they stuck with 0 points at MR on mine.

    My whole decision has been based on opinion. My bundle arrived this morning - the DWP did contact my GP. He was honest so put that he 'did not know' how my daily life is affected but did describe the individual problems I have (not being able to bare weight on left wrist for example). 

    Not once has DWP referred to my GPs evidence or mental health assessment report. They used my f2f assessment for everything. I can drive therefore I can bathe etc. I look well nourished therefore I can cook etc.

    I struggled with a couple of exercises at the F2F (which I noted was on a good day!) The assessor wrote that I didn't have any trouble with anything.

    Fibromyalgia is so hard to prove. I certainly feel the DWP think I'm making the whole thing up.
  • Sam_Alumni
    Sam_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 7,673 Disability Gamechanger
    We have some videos about going to tribunal that might help?






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  • Waylay
    Waylay Member Posts: 971 Pioneering
    @Jurph Does. Not. Swear. Argh! 
    MRs rarely change their decision unfortunately, ignoring your evidence is par for the course, and basing everything on stupid opinions happens all the time. :/ You're not alone, if that helps. 

    Appealing to a Tribunal, if you feel you can, is the next step. Claimants are winning 69% of them. 

    *Hugs*
  • Jurph
    Jurph Member Posts: 362 Pioneering
    Thanks @Waylay I will try. I got my bundle this morning. Going to enlist some help.

    It's so hard to prove a disability that doesn't show on any tests!
  • Waylay
    Waylay Member Posts: 971 Pioneering
    I know. 3 MH conditions, and chronic pain. :/ 
  • Jurph
    Jurph Member Posts: 362 Pioneering
    My GP didn't mention MH in the information he sent. Even though he referred me to CBT ?
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
    Change your gp
  • Jurph
    Jurph Member Posts: 362 Pioneering
    I liked him. He was good, just didn't give all information.

    He retired last month. I saw a new one who was horrible! 
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
    Well it’s hard to get a rapport with a gp these days as they move on regularly. I’m my case my gp was good on the m h side for putting down in writing how it affects me but he did ask me about it and typed it up as part of an appointment. I told him what I had put down in my application. But he worded it well. My issue was the lack of info on my chronic pain then fibro was diagnosed by another gp. So it took 2 g p s to sort my pip stuff.
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
    Anyone know how long for the meeting date please?
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
    I got a random voicemail last thing Friday afternoon from welfare rights team, who wanted to arrange a meeting prior to the appeal/tribunal on the 24th May. Its a new person, and Ive to contact them on Tuesday ( I think the day before!) I didnt get any letter. WRO have authority to deal with Pip but usually I get a letter too. My dad passed away on Monday and I havent told them yet. I cant go through this at the moment and I dont know what to do.
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
    Maybe @mikehughescq could advise me please? The WRO doesnt know me or my case.
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes thanks @mikehughescq
    Firstly,
    unfortunately the first WRO I saw was basically saying folks with mental health issues won’t get pip so I’m wasting my time. I was told otherwise by my mental health rep who suported me in my decision to ask for a different WRO. I actually felt she must be on commission from atos! (joke!) 
    Secondly my conditions at the start of this process were mental health issues and chronic pain issues. The fibro was diagnosed during the process so all the symptoms came under chronic pain and how both these conditions affect me day to day. 
    Thirdly, it would seem I have no time to prepare for a meeting or for my rep to familiarise themselves with my issues or for me to ascertain their capabilities to represent me. My mental health rep wanted to meet up with all of us to get prepared for the meeting and plan for the best outcome. This way it feels completely messy and unprofessional. 
    Fourthly, I don’t feel I can do this right now so can I ask for a new date due to bereavement please? 
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