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PIP points

Hi I got results back from pip and they gave me no points for daily living as I have too be reminded too take my tablets by my partner and got no points for it at all
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Thank you for sharing. Sorry what has happened. May I suggest you need to appeal. That is what you may need to do. The benefit system is complex and confusing. I understand the situation and the disappointment you must feel.
I would advise contact CAB or welfare rights for further benefit information. Have a look at our community advice on PIP. Lots of similar stories like yours.
We are a supportive, friendly community who care and share.
Ask the community anything. Some one will be able to help and assist.
Hope that helps.
Wish you all the best what ever you decide to do.
Please take care.
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People do not study the ins and outs of PIP before they put pen to paper they just list all their medical conditions and medication without looking at how these conditions affect their ability to carry out the descriptors in the PIP criteria and that is why they fail to get an award.
Did the tribunal issues have issues with that? Yes they did but not only did it result in an award but their issues were so badly expressed that we’ve easily gone off to UT and the judge in question had taken a hammering.
However, the key point is that you can change what you need to at any point provided it’s accompanied by a sensible explanation.
1) As with some other people on here, there is a danger of taking one experience and translating that into everybody’s experience when that is rarely the case. The contents of a claim pack rarely in themselves determine anything but that’s usually because there is other evidence which can be weighed with or against it. However, a poorly completed claim pack will almost always be detrimental no matter what the evidence especially when it is the sole evidence. A well completed one can easily do the job by itself.
I’ve worked with at least 2 colleagues who persist in putting minimal information on claim packs for ESA and and relying on fantastic evidence from mental health specialists or similar and then blame tribunals when awards are not as expected. Er, no.
2) What you describe with regards to the advice service you used sounds like a mix of poor communication and misunderstanding.
If I completed a claim pack I would always expect to take it back to the office to copy and then send as it would be bad practice to not do so. The only exception to that would be if we were right on top of a deadline. I need a record of my work for reasons of accountability and it’s essential there’s a copy available if the claim pack goes awol. There are a number of people on here who argue in favour of recorded delivery. I’ve yet to read any of them using that to win an argument over a missing claim pack. However, being able to say to DWP that the claim pack was done on date x and submitted on date y and then offering to email the whole thing there and then is a winning argument.
As regards the rest of it , then the advice agency are in theory partly in the wrong. You’re the apppointee and therefore it’s your claim. Sure you take their professional advice on the form filling but they don’t get to dictate terms on how the form is submitted. If you don’t like their process you pick up your form and walk away.
However, the other side of that is that not would I expect to complete a claim pack in front of someone and then have them say that they had some things to add and wanted to take the form away. That risks my professional name being associated with a claim pack where a claimant has subsequently lied or exaggerated. It’s a non-starter.
The correct thing to do would be to suggest either abandon that claim pack and you do it yourself or book a further appointment at which that additional information could be considered. A claim pack completed as you suggest would ordinarily never be acceptable to most advice services.