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PIP REVIEW ASSESSMENT

mollypeppamollypeppa Member Posts: 19 Connected
edited December 2018 in PIP, DLA and AA
Hello, I was transferred from dla low rate care and low rate mobility in 2016, I never had a face to face and received 11 points only on care, no mobility, it was done in 5 weeks from sending the pip form in.

Now, I received a review form I. August, sent back on september around 18th, my wife was made my appointee by home visit, as my wife wrote to pip department asking to be appointee, it was granted at home visit with no evidence, my wife called pip five weeks ago and was told the review form is with a case manager, two weeks after, another call now it's with assessors, last Tuesday my wife received a call from assessors and lady asked a few questions to my wife, to see if she could do assesment over phone, the questions was all aimed at mobility, which was explained in the review form, ie, how often does your husband use a walking stick, does he go out on his own, then the assessor said, I dont need a face to face, is this a good thing? As how can the assessor justify answers as to how I walk ect. My problems if any use are, I use stick for pain in my liver. 

Chronic depression 
Anxiety
Alcoholic dependent syndrome
Hidradinitis supurativa (rare skin disease)
Asthma

Also, I'm ashamed to say this, a victim of child sexual abuse and a sexual assault in my early 20s,which was included with the review form. I told pip this in 2016, so why was I not assessed properly last time, all that was in my form in 2016 was "my motivation stops me doing this" this time it's been detailed properly

My wife wrote a detailed supportive letter, all evidence ie, councillors, I even reported some bits to police the letter was sent in also.


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  • thespicemanthespiceman Member Posts: 6,408 Disability Gamechanger
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  • mollypeppamollypeppa Member Posts: 19 Connected
    I have seen welfare rights in council where I live
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi,

    It's not a good or bad thing, it just means they were able to do a paper based assessment. You can still ring DWP to ask for a copy of the assessment report to be sent to you. This will give you some idea what the decision is likely to be as they mostly go with the report.
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0 Connected
    Good luck to you and you have nothing to be ashamed of. Wishing you all the best
  • mollypeppamollypeppa Member Posts: 19 Connected
    johnnyboy said:
    Good luck to you and you have nothing to be ashamed of. Wishing you all the bestjohnnyboy said:
    Good luck to you and you have nothing to be ashamed of. Wishing you all the best
    Thankyou.
  • mollypeppamollypeppa Member Posts: 19 Connected
    Hi,

    It's not a good or bad thing, it just means they were able to do a paper based assessment. You can still ring DWP to ask for a copy of the assessment report to be sent to you. This will give you some idea what the decision is likely to be as they mostly go with the report.
    Last time I dont even think it was sent to assessors, as I was told by welfare rights, it's a review And they look at the previous decision and points awarded, 11 was a bit shady, no f2f no assesors, DWP tried to hush up I think what I told them, I've had help this time, and I think a f2f wouldn't do me any good, they know everything, how it affects me in detail, I am also in esa support group no face to face in January, that was a review from 2016 also where I moved groups.
  • mollypeppamollypeppa Member Posts: 19 Connected
    Hi,

    It's not a good or bad thing, it just means they were able to do a paper based assessment. You can still ring DWP to ask for a copy of the assessment report to be sent to you. This will give you some idea what the decision is likely to be as they mostly go with the report.
    Last time I dont even think it was sent to assessors, as I was told by welfare rights, it's a review And they look at the previous decision and points awarded, 11 was a bit shady, no f2f no assesors, DWP tried to hush up I think what I told them, I've had help this time, and I think a f2f wouldn't do me any good, they know everything, how it affects me in detail, I am also in esa support group no face to face in January, that was a review from 2016 also where I moved groups.
    Hi,

    It's not a good or bad thing, it just means they were able to do a paper based assessment. You can still ring DWP to ask for a copy of the assessment report to be sent to you. This will give you some idea what the decision is likely to be as they mostly go with the report.
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  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,258 Disability Gamechanger
    You do not need to quote, you can just type your reply in the box at the bottom
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    The forms are always sent to the health assessment providers even for a review. They then look at your claim and decide if a face to face assessment is needed. Sometimes it's possible to do a paper based assessment based on the evidence given and the form that was filled in, but most have face to face assessments.

    There's a report written for both paper based and face to face, once this is written it's returned to DWP. It's then sent to a decision maker who makes their decision. Mostly they go with the recommendations written in the report.
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  • mollypeppamollypeppa Member Posts: 19 Connected
    Ahh, ok, so in 2016 the original form would have been sent to assessors, it did sound strange back then as it was awarded in five weeks from getting form back. 

    When the assesor phoned my wife, the assessor said, I have symtoms of PTSD, and as I mentioned about the police, my wife was told last week, basically they are not looking into the report, bear in mind they sent a crime ref no ect out, my wife also told this to the assessor, and said to her I'd have to report it again, "oh no" assesors reply. Also she asked about on buses, no cos it goes past where something happened to him a long time ago, assessor said "I can understand that" ... I think by assessors remarks it should be ok, as I said the questions were aimed at mobility. I'm thinking care side will be fine, as for cooking ect, all explained properly, I cant use knives because of things. probably get that extra point, only question that was asked was toilet one, bit embarrassing but that was only question which was not properly explained in the review form.my wife helps me sometimes, as when I'm in depression state I cant do anything and in bed, so no food or drink your body plays havok. I know you've gotta say no matter how embarrassing, so my wife said when asked "do you help your husband?" Ie, clean himself,or get to bathroom, "yes" but it's not all time I was under mental health team, but all I get off mental health team is "im appropriately dressed"an alcohol discover place and proper sex crime councillor, all been sent in. Im 41 and cant clean myself at times,feel useless, and stupid.

     the Hidradinitis supurativa is rare it was properly diagnosed last year, cyst like lumps in armpits,groin, they flare up but wasnt diagnosed till I started talking,just like the depression, flares up, a high mood lasts no longer than eight weeks, sometimes less.that's why I use a stick when I do go out,, everything was blamed on alcohol beforehand i should look after my wife not other way roundMy wife might call tomorrow to see if reports ready but I dont want to know, rather just wait for decision which assesor said it will be before Christmas, but if my wife not got report and I'm kicked off it with Christmas it reduces the 28 day mandatory, but I dont want to think about that.

    Can I also ask, if it was rejected what happens to current payments do they stop on day of decision or carry on four a month,? I know I'm asking a lot of stuff but my anxiety is through the roof.

    Can I also ask, did my wife do right thing in explaining things, ie, the abuse,in detail.?? I did last time but felt embarrassed, but did not say much., I still do.
  • mollypeppamollypeppa Member Posts: 19 Connected
    Does anyone know what the word "pinned" means in DWP terms? My wife rang pip on 5th dec for the assessment report pa3 paper based, lady said they have ut and would send it out, Friday gone, 15th still no report received, wife rings back pip, lady on phone said the report has been "pinned" to be sent out,. Why did they not send it on the 5th? And what does pinned mean? Also lady said on 1th that a progress letter had been issued, why issue a progress letter and hold off on sending report out.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Does anyone know what the word "pinned" means in DWP terms? My wife rang pip on 5th dec for the assessment report pa3 paper based, lady said they have ut and would send it out, Friday gone, 15th still no report received, wife rings back pip, lady on phone said the report has been "pinned" to be sent out,. Why did they not send it on the 5th? And what does pinned mean? Also lady said on 1th that a progress letter had been issued, why issue a progress letter and hold off on sending report out.
    It means that your assessment report will be sent out when it's received back with DWP. It's just a note they've put onto the system.
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  • mollypeppamollypeppa Member Posts: 19 Connected
    Can I ask, if pinned means when they receive it back from assesors is that correct?  We was told they had it on the 5th, and would send it out, that's what I dont understand, then on 14th. Its pinned. My understanding is that when my wife rang on the 5th that lady must have pinned it to be issued and as we not got it was still pinned on Friday, she shouldn't have said they had it and was sending it if it wasn't received back. Should get it this week. The DWP do not answer straight forward questions, they have their own language, my wife has wrote dates ect down as a decision will probably come, dated before they got assessment report back. That would be laughable.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    It just means they put a note on the system to send it out to you.
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  • mollypeppamollypeppa Member Posts: 19 Connected
    Ok. Thanks, I'll let you know when we get it
  • mollypeppamollypeppa Member Posts: 19 Connected
    Got the update letter today dated 12th dec. It says " we now have all the information we need to make a decision " bear in mind still no report issued out, as poppy123456 says, they will send it when they have it, they must have it, as on 14th it was pinned to be sent out, do you think I should call and find out? Something doesn't add up.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    The only thing you can do is ring and ask if it's been sent.
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  • mollypeppamollypeppa Member Posts: 19 Connected
    I know, dont like keep ringing though. I'll wait till post tomorrow. Then ring, if they say same, then I'll go to welfare rights, 
  • mollypeppamollypeppa Member Posts: 19 Connected
    Hello. Wife called pip. Was read decision over phone, enhanced on both from just standard on care, but didn't say for how long. Phew. Lady said should have had report to weeks ago, she was sorry.
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