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Lost ESA after moving house

martyngwynnemartyngwynne Member Posts: 2 Listener
Hi, 
My son has just moved to a house with his girlfriend.  She is a nurse with 'standard' nurse's income.  He has been on ESA (mental and physical health issues) and PIP.  He indicated change of address and circumstances and seems to have lost his ESA.  He had no idea this would happen as he just cannot work and surely he is not now regarded as being looked after by his girlfriend?

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  • CaraLeeCaraLee Member Posts: 39 Courageous
    Welcome to the community @martyngwynne it's nice to meet you! :) I am sure a member of the community with a similar experience will be able to share with you. I had a similar issue myself when moving in with my partner and it took a few weeks to resolve and required myself and my partner to attend an appointment at the job center to show our tenancy agreement, his wage slips and all of my information again but was soon resolved and back paid - however this was after being moved on you universal credit so I am not certain if esa would work in the same way. Hope you find some answers for you son soon.   
  • steve51steve51 Community champion Posts: 7,175 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @martyngwynne

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    I am very sorry to hear about your current problems!!!!!

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  • martyngwynnemartyngwynne Member Posts: 2 Listener
    Hi,
    Thank you.  Some advice would be very useful.  I usually help him with filling in forms etc. but i don't want to start doing lots of forms which may be unnecessary or even unhelpful.  I have told him to go to Citizens advice a.s.a.p. to get help first (we live 60 miles away now).  He is getting in a real state about it all (no money!) and i would like to be able to give him a dose of optimism.
    Basically situation is:
    He has been on ESA for about 2 years (mental health issues, substance abuse).  He also has long term issues with a bad foot which means that he cannot stand/walk for more than an hour or so and then needs to rest it for a day.  He is just about to embark on medical intervention on this which will last for a year and reduce his mobility further at intervals.  His ESA was, i think £360 a fortnight + PIP at about £220 a month.  Then , of course, Housing + C. tax.
    Now he has moved in to a new place with able bodies partner who is on about £16,000 a year.
    What sort of benefits will he be entitled to if he makes his case in the new authority?
  • RedorchidRedorchid Member Posts: 4 Listener
    Welcome all new members. Hope you get the help you need x
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi,

    The reason his ESA has stopped was because it sounds like he was claiming Income Related ESA. This is a means tested benefit and as his partner works more than 24 hours per week then he won't be entitled to any Income Related ESA. They are partners now that live together and they are supposed to share their money, as horrible as that sounds.

    PIP isn't means tested so he'll get to keep all of that.

    He won't be entitled to any benefits in his own right with a partner working and earning a wage, i'm afraid.

    Do they rent their home? Are there any dependent children?

    If they rent their home they maybe able to claim universal credit as couple and claim some housing element, but this will depend on their circumstances. It's impossible to advise further on an internet forum.

    I'd advise them to use a benefits calculator and put both of their details into that (rent included, if they rent) to see what they could claim, if anything. They will of course have to claim as a couple because universal credit is a means tested benefit. Any savings/capital they have that's over £6,000 will affect any means tested benefits they can claim. £16,000 and over then they won't be entitled to claim anything. Benefits calculator is here.

    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • Pippa_ScopePippa_Scope Member Posts: 5,856 Disability Gamechanger
    Welcome to the community @martyngwynne! Glad to see you've had some guidance above.
  • kami24kami24 Member Posts: 347 Pioneering
    If I move to live with my dad will my benefits be affected he only gets 270 maximum a week so only about 1,300 a month maximum after tax 
  • kami24kami24 Member Posts: 347 Pioneering
    I currently live alone but it's like in a horrible bed sit situation and I need to live with support with someone like my dad and near to my mum so she can also emotionally support me 
  • kami24kami24 Member Posts: 347 Pioneering
    We rent and would be renting a bungalow he is 60 and grafted for 45 years 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    If you went to live with your dad and you are still claiming JSA then you'll lose the SDP, if your dad doesn't claim a qualifying benefit.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • kami24kami24 Member Posts: 347 Pioneering
    I know that but would you get any help with rent costs 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You will need to be a joint tenant on the tenancy agreement to get any help with the rent for yourself. If this did happen and it's different local council, or you haven't claimed housing benefit before then you'll need to claim UC for the housing element. Your JSA will then become UC.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
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