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PIP renewal form

valleyboyvalleyboy Member Posts: 55 Connected
Hi,Is it normal to receive a PIP renewal form a 12month before the original award ends?

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Yes reviews take place 1 year before the award ends.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • valleyboyvalleyboy Member Posts: 55 Connected
    Thanks,any ideas on someone who could complete the form as the one organisation I used as now run out of funding..
    South Wales based..
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Welfare rights or a law centre?
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    valleyboy said:
    Thanks,any ideas on someone who could complete the form as the one organisation I used as now run out of funding..
    South Wales based..
    Having seen the completion of at least one PIP2 form, do you not feel capable of completing this one?

  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Yadnad said:

    Having seen the completion of at least one PIP2 form, do you not feel capable of completing this one?

    Very helpful comment..... Seriously, why comment if you can't say anything helpful?
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    Yadnad said:

    Having seen the completion of at least one PIP2 form, do you not feel capable of completing this one?

    Very helpful comment..... Seriously, why comment if you can't say anything helpful?
    It is helpful. I have completed 3 and because of that I could fill them in back to front. Having seen 1 completed the poster could well fill out another? 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Yadnad said:

     I have completed 3 and because of that I could fill them in back to front.
    Yet you had 3 refusals.
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  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    edited December 2018
    Yadnad said:

     I have completed 3 and because of that I could fill them in back to front.
    Yet you had 3 refusals.
    Yes you are right but that had nothing to do with the claim forms but more to do with the hatchet job that all three assessors did to my claims - they did everything in their power to discredit what I had written.
  • Government_needs_reformGovernment_needs_reform Member Posts: 858 Pioneering
    edited December 2018
    valleyboy said:
    Hi,Is it normal to receive a PIP renewal form a 12month before the original award ends?

    Hiya @valleyboy Iam thinking as you have recieved this a year early you would have been sent an AR1 form which I believe you have.

    The normal is to review a year before, the award runs out it will state on the original decision letter you recieved?

    All awards will be roughly a year before unless an ongoing or fixed 2 years then it will most likely be 14 weeks before a 2 year award. Ongoing awards are normally after 10 years.

    As for help filling in the form have a look on the internet and search for a CAB or law centre that maybe helpful to you. Good luck.
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  • valleyboyvalleyboy Member Posts: 55 Connected
    Yadnad,if you've nothing helpful to post then I suggest you don't comment on a post that I've asked for Information..
  • valleyboyvalleyboy Member Posts: 55 Connected
    Poppy123456,is it possible I could request a extension on this as I've no found a organisation to complete the form but that ain't until the 30th of January
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    valleyboy said:
    Poppy123456,is it possible I could request a extension on this as I've no found a organisation to complete the form but that ain't until the 30th of January
    They will give you an extra 14 days. They may even give you longer than that but the end of January is 5+ weeks from now. When does the form have to be returned by?
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,995 Disability Gamechanger
    Yadnad said:
    Yadnad said:

     I have completed 3 and because of that I could fill them in back to front.
    Yet you had 3 refusals.
    Yes you are right but that had nothing to do with the claim forms but more to do with the hatchet job that all three assessors did to my claims - they did everything in their power to discredit what I had written.
    As you didn’t chalenge the decisions you have no way of knowing what was decisive as regards your claim but given that you made 3 claims it seems reasonable to conclude that the claim packs played a significant role as they always do. Get the form right and there’s little a HCP can do to look credible when making counter assertions.
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    valleyboy said:
    Poppy123456,is it possible I could request a extension on this as I've no found a organisation to complete the form but that ain't until the 30th of January
    valleyboy said:
    Poppy123456,is it possible I could request a extension on this as I've no found a organisation to complete the form but that ain't until the 30th of January

    I was given an extra 7 days, others I hear were given 14 days.
     But 5 weeks could well be a problem - you will only find out if you tell than that you need 5 weeks to when you see them and probably another 2 weeks to ensure that the claim form is received by them - 7 weeks in total.
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member





    Yes you are right but that had nothing to do with the claim forms but more to do with the hatchet job that all three assessors did to my claims - they did everything in their power to discredit what I had written.
    As you didn’t chalenge the decisions you have no way of knowing what was decisive as regards your claim but given that you made 3 claims it seems reasonable to conclude that the claim packs played a significant role as they always do. Get the form right and there’s little a HCP can do to look credible when making counter assertions.
    I did challenge the first two as I have reported earlier. They were both uplifted from 0 points to enhanced care & mobility at MR stage.
    The third made it through the MR but the DWP decided against changing the original decision. Consequently only the third one wasn't taken any further.

    Mike, you haven't had the opportunity to see all three assessor reports - they were nothing but a pack of lies suggesting that I said things which I didn't and carried out leg and arm movements which I also didn't do.
    On top of that one said that I am a keen swimmer (never) another that I still play rugby (I wish) and to top it all another said that I look after my wife 24/7 as she is incapable of looking after herself (rubbish - in some ways she is fitter than me!)

    And not forgetting the mental health examination which gave up to 14 reasons why I have never had those issues.

    Credible or not, when it came down to it the DWP would obviously go with the assessor reports even in contradiction to the evidence submitted and the contents of the PIP2 form - I was a liar and the assessor always tells the truth!

    For the MRs' carried out all I suggested to the DWP was to actually read the evidence supplied including the DWP doctor's  report into my mental health problems. 
    They then changed the first two with no further issues.



     
  • atlas46atlas46 Member Posts: 827 Pioneering
    Hi @valleyboy

    Please listen to @poopy123456, she provides sound advice to our community.

    @mikehughescq do you know the latest about @Yadnad, he is a member of your Rightsnet forum, he trades under the name of Oldrocker.

    Please check his posts on Rightsnet.

    He also used the same user name on Yourable and MSE furoms, before being kicked off.

    I am tagging @poppy123456 and @Tardis as they are interested parties.

    Interested in your views, in a post on MSE he claimed that 75% of DLA claims, where fraudulent.

  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    atlas46 said:
    Hi @valleyboy

    Please listen to @poopy123456, she provides sound advice to our community.

    @mikehughescq do you know the latest about @Yadnad, he is a member of your Rightsnet forum, he trades under the name of Oldrocker.

    Please check his posts on Rightsnet.

    He also used the same user name on Yourable and MSE furoms, before being kicked off.

    I am tagging @poppy123456 and @Tardis as they are interested parties.

    Interested in your views, in a post on MSE he claimed that 75% of DLA claims, where fraudulent.

    Post & poster reported.
  • atlas46atlas46 Member Posts: 827 Pioneering
    Hi @Yadnab

    Posts that you posted, are on file.
  • YadnadYadnad Posts: 2,856 Member
    atlas46 said:
    Hi @Yadnab

    Posts that you posted, are on file.
    I would hope so on this site. As for any other site or discussion area you are completely wrong. I do not post elsewhere.
  • TardisTardis Member Posts: 214 Pioneering
    Hmm, @Yadnab.  There are two possibilities here.  

    1.  You are the poster on Rightsnet, posing as an advisor posting about very similar claims to your own.

    2.  You are not oldestrocker (as you claim).  In which case, you should make every possible attempt to get in touch with that advisor as they are in the Canterbury area and take on claims very, very similar to your own.  They say they are a forensic accountant, so it's very possible that you might even know them already?  I would think they would be very well placed to take your case on.
  • atlas46atlas46 Member Posts: 827 Pioneering
    Hi @mikehughescq

    @Yadnab trades on Rightesnet as Oldestestrocker.

    Sorry for my mistake.

    Hope you enjoy reading his 52 posts from 2011 to the present, on Rightsnet.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,995 Disability Gamechanger
    I’d appreciate it if posters wouldn’t tag me in on posts involving @Yadnad. I had with some reluctance taken the decision to place said poster on my “ignore” list prior to an email from Scope suggesting similar. There appears to me to be little rational discussion to be had as regards his advice needs so I’m out. 

    I joined this site in a personal capacity as a person deemed disabled under EA10 and have been increasingly drawn into my professional field having been appalled at the continuing poor standard of advice from many members on benefits issues. The lack of a search function on the forum creates an ongoing issue with both poor or plain wrong advice being repeated and corrections having to be repeated.  

    Regardless of my views on the posts of said poster I will not be drawn into any discussion as to the identity of anyone who has elected to preserve their anonymity. It is none of my business and I’m unclear as to why it’s the business of anyone else. With that in mind I have reported a post above which looks to me like some kind of witch hunt. 

    One of those posters has in the recent past publicly suggested they were reporting me to my employer for some kind of claim on here they believed to be inaccurate. They both misrepresented what I said and were demonstrably inaccurate in their underlying assertion. 

    At this point in time they have made no complaint to the best of my knowledge. Such empty threats run perilously close to harassment and now said poster, with little irony, appears to want me to do their bidding as regards a poster on Rightsnet. I will not. 

    Rightsnet T&Cs are publicly available and if anyone has an issue with a poster there or here then I’m sure the admins on either site will competently handle any issue raised. Posters here need to report their concerns to the appropriate parties rather than other posters. 


  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    I completely agree with mike here. I've also decided not to get involved anymore with the said troublesome poster. After reporting a few posts this morning i also had a reply from scope advising me to put the said poster on ignore. I have taken their advice and done exactly this. I have to think of my sanity and health so this decision is the best way forward.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
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