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Is another appeal worth it?

Pam123Pam123 Member Posts: 7 Listener
edited February 2019 in PIP, DLA and AA
Hi everyone

I am disabled and have been for 10 years now I have several health problems and have been in receipt of PIP for the last 6 years, I was awarded standard in both mobility, my condition has got worse over the last year but i decided to wait until my next assessment was due rather than re apply, I have just been re assessed and received my award today, the award has remained as standard rate,  The assessors report  had discrepancies, i scored 11 on daily and 10 on mobility, also the form states because of the law as i am 66 i can only receive the standard on mobility, I want to appeal but to be honest if they people can basically put what they want, i don't know if its worth going through the stress of another assessment.
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  • Antonia_ScopeAntonia_Scope Member Posts: 1,783 Pioneering
    Hi @Pam123

    Thank you for sharing this with us. Some of our members may be able to give you some advice.
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  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,258 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi Pam and welcome

    If your opinion is that you should qualify for enhanced DL based on the descriptors then you should ask for an MR
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
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  • Pam123Pam123 Member Posts: 7 Listener
    Hi both 

    thank you for your reply and welcome, I believe I do qualify, but i am quite disturbed by the report to be honest, for example I am unable to prepare or cook meal and have been unable to do for almost a year, I cannot stand for more than a few minutes if that before i am crippled with pain, the assessor was made aware of this but score me 2 and the report said I was able to prepare a meal with aids, this is completely untrue, my husband is my full time carer and does all the house work and cooking, another example is to visit my downstairs toilet in less than 10 metres, and i use a walking stick to help me and am wheelchair bound she put me down as being able to walk more than 20metres and less than 50, I really don't want to have to go through of having another so call health worker coming and telling a load of lies.
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You won't be able to claim Enhanced mobility because you're over 65.

    For cooking and preparing a meal. You will always score points for using an aid, even if assistance is needed. To score the points for needing assistance then you have to explain why you can't use an aid and what danger you would be in if an aid was used. You won't just score those extra points because you choose not to cook. If they think an aid can reasonably be used then that's what you'll score points in and the same for a Tribunal. This applies to all the descriptors.
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  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,258 Disability Gamechanger
    An MR is a paper review of the evidence in your case. You should concentrate on showing that you meet the criteria for the descriptors that apply to you, gining 2-3 examples of what happened last time you attempted the activity.
    Any inaccuracies or misrepresentations you think may be in the report is of little matter all the MR and subsequent tribunal are interested in are the facts of how your conditions affect the things you do in line with the descriptors
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
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  • Pam123Pam123 Member Posts: 7 Listener
    poppy123456 said:
    You won't be able to claim Enhanced mobility because you're over 65.

    For cooking and preparing a meal. You will always score points for using an aid, even if assistance is needed. To score the points for needing assistance then you have to explain why you can't use an aid and what danger you would be in if an aid was used. You won't just score those extra points because you choose not to cook. If they think an aid can reasonably be used then that's what you'll score points in and the same for a Tribunal. This applies to all the descriptors.
    I know I cant claim the  claim Enhanced mobility, but didn't realise this until today, However i don't choose not to cook I am in so much pain i cant do anything.
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  • Pam123Pam123 Member Posts: 7 Listener
    CockneyRebel said:
    An MR is a paper review of the evidence in your case. You should concentrate on showing that you meet the criteria for the descriptors that apply to you, gining 2-3 examples of what happened last time you attempted the activity.
    Any inaccuracies or misrepresentations you think may be in the report is of little matter all the MR and subsequent tribunal are interested in are the facts of how your conditions affect the things you do in line with the descriptors
    CockneyRebel said:
    An MR is a paper review of the evidence in your case. You should concentrate on showing that you meet the criteria for the descriptors that apply to you, gining 2-3 examples of what happened last time you attempted the activity.
    Any inaccuracies or misrepresentations you think may be in the report is of little matter all the MR and subsequent tribunal are interested in are the facts of how your conditions affect the things you do in line with the descriptors
    Thank you for explaining that helps a lot 
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Pam123 said:
    poppy123456 said:
    You won't be able to claim Enhanced mobility because you're over 65.

    For cooking and preparing a meal. You will always score points for using an aid, even if assistance is needed. To score the points for needing assistance then you have to explain why you can't use an aid and what danger you would be in if an aid was used. You won't just score those extra points because you choose not to cook. If they think an aid can reasonably be used then that's what you'll score points in and the same for a Tribunal. This applies to all the descriptors.
    I know I cant claim the  claim Enhanced mobility, but didn't realise this until today, However i don't choose not to cook I am in so much pain i cant do anything.
    You need to explain why you can't reasonably use an aid like a perching stool. What happened the last time you attempted the activity using an aid. You'll always score points for using an aid whether you choose not to or not, if they think you can reasonably use one.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
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  • cristobalcristobal Member Posts: 965 Disability Gamechanger
    poppy123456 said:
    You won't be able to claim Enhanced mobility because you're over 65. 

    For cooking and preparing a meal. You will always score points for using an aid, even if assistance is needed. To score the points for needing assistance then you have to explain why you can't use an aid and what danger you would be in if an aid was used. You won't just score those extra points because you choose not to cook. If they think an aid can reasonably be used then that's what you'll score points in and the same for a Tribunal. This applies to all the descriptors. 
    @poppy123456 -  I thought I understood this when you explained last time but I'm confused again now..

    .I've got enhanced mobility for an indefinite/10year period (when I will be 69) Does this change when I'm 65?

    (I promise I'll beat myself over the head with an inflatable hammer until it goes in this time!)
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    cristobal said:
    poppy123456 said:
    You won't be able to claim Enhanced mobility because you're over 65. 

    For cooking and preparing a meal. You will always score points for using an aid, even if assistance is needed. To score the points for needing assistance then you have to explain why you can't use an aid and what danger you would be in if an aid was used. You won't just score those extra points because you choose not to cook. If they think an aid can reasonably be used then that's what you'll score points in and the same for a Tribunal. This applies to all the descriptors. 
    @poppy123456 -  I thought I understood this when you explained last time but I'm confused again now..

    .I've got enhanced mobility for an indefinite/10year period (when I will be 69) Does this change when I'm 65?

    (I promise I'll beat myself over the head with an inflatable hammer until it goes in this time!)
    No because you're already claiming the Enhanced mobility.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
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  • Pam123Pam123 Member Posts: 7 Listener
    poppy123456 said:
    Pam123 said:
    poppy123456 said:
    You won't be able to claim Enhanced mobility because you're over 65.

    For cooking and preparing a meal. You will always score points for using an aid, even if assistance is needed. To score the points for needing assistance then you have to explain why you can't use an aid and what danger you would be in if an aid was used. You won't just score those extra points because you choose not to cook. If they think an aid can reasonably be used then that's what you'll score points in and the same for a Tribunal. This applies to all the descriptors.
    I know I cant claim the  claim Enhanced mobility, but didn't realise this until today, However i don't choose not to cook I am in so much pain i cant do anything.
    You need to explain why you can't reasonably use an aid like a perching stool. What happened the last time you attempted the activity using an aid. You'll always score points for using an aid whether you choose not to or not, if they think you can reasonably use one.
    Thank you for your reply, I believe i did explain clearly to the assessor but for some reason she has not addressed my issues.
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  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,258 Disability Gamechanger
    You carry forward the mobility award you have when you are 65 as long as you meet the criteria
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    That will be because they believed that you can reasonably use an aid. I advise you to get face to face advice regarding this from an advice centre near you.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
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  • Pam123Pam123 Member Posts: 7 Listener
    poppy123456 said:
    That will be because they believed that you can reasonably use an aid. I advise you to get face to face advice regarding this from an advice centre near you.
    Thank you I will.
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