Upset with assessment report

tara2019

received a letter from dwp 2 weeks after my totally wrong assessment they got all info to make a decision this is causing me so much anxiety havent slept with worry have self harmed again cant think of anything else, ive been back to my doctor they will give me a supporting letter, if i need one, im going to see a physio tomorrow, im hoping for a full assesment of my limited abilitys caused by all my diagnosed conditions and how much this is effecting my way of life,  also have requested all my medical reports/notes, ive enroled in a wellbeing collage suggested by my doctor due to my mental state with depression is sever at this time, and self harming through overdosing, my son and daughter which are above 18 yrs have removed all tablets out of my home and only give the ones which i need through out the day and night this is due to me overdosing when im so low on not been supervised by my children is there anything else i can do thanks

Deb_Alumni

Hello @tara2019

I hope that you feel you are a valued member of our community and we appreciate you.

You appear to be having thoughts of self harm, it is important that you discuss them with someone who is qualified to help. Please call the Samaritans on 116 123 (free) or email them at jo@samaritans.org

You might also benefit from reading MIND’s information on how you can help yourself:

http://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/types-of-mental-health-problems/suicidal-feelings/how-can-i-help-myself/

If you feel that you may be an immediate danger to yourself, please call 999 or go to your local hospital right away.

Sincerely,

Debbie 

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tara2019

thank you been to doctors today which has helped 

tara2019

just had my award today just as i knew scored big fat 0 exactly what the lying assessor said do i ring dwp and tell them im going to send in more physio reports more doctors reports and mri scans how how my physical mobility with  and mental state effects my life and tell them im wanting a mr,  also should i ring the assesment centre i want to complain regarding the assessor who did not do her job 

Adam_Alumni

Hi @tara2019  

How are you feeling today?

Sorry to hear that your claim was unsuccessful.  We have lots of information about appealing a DWP benefits decision on our website which might be of interest to you. 

If you wish to complain to the DWP, you can do so by ringing:

0800 121 4433

poppy123456

tara2019 said:

just had my award today just as i knew scored big fat 0 exactly what the lying assessor said do i ring dwp and tell them im going to send in more physio reports more doctors reports and mri scans how how my physical mobility with  and mental state effects my life and tell them im wanting a mr,  also should i ring the assesment centre i want to complain regarding the assessor who did not do her job 

You need to put your MR request in writing stating what you disagree with and where you think you should have scored those points and your reasons why. Adding 2-3 examples of what happened the last time you attempted that activity for each descriptor that applies to you. You have 1 month from the date of the decision to request this.

tara2019

im feeling totally low with sever depression, but so angry with what this is putting me through ill ring dwp now i kept my carlm at assesment the real agressive mental person the dwp gets now thanks for help 
 

tara2019

oki thanks

Gerald

Hi tara2019 first off welcome to the community this is not the first time that this as come up about the PIP assessor or report the same thing happed to me with them on the mental health on that the assessor put know mental health problems as I drove a car in the past which I do not do now and that is just one thing that was wrong with the report and i'm now going to the tribunal if the assessor looks at all your the evidence that supports your claim and not come out with They only have 10-20 minutes to look at reports and then they is this one  If they were to look at everything and read it thorough, a lot of people would be sat in the waiting room for a very long time okay but which is better do the job right the first as this is someone's life or someone having to go with all this pain and torment I think it better to do it right in the first place. but that's just me.

tara2019

im now off work with sever depression and sever pain, im now getting help from my doctor, physio, musculosketal specialist and mental health team all this has got so sever since applying for disability, how can they put people through this which causes so much more intense symptoms,

Pippa_Alumni

I'm so sorry to hear things are tough, @tara2019. You're among people who understand here, and who will be able to empathise with your experiences. Please do keep us updated, and I hope things move forwards for you soon.

madquasimodo

It's sad to hear the same thing over and over, why is there not someone bringing these assessors to answer why they lie and disregard claimant and doctors evidence, my partner just had her PIP and Mobility knocked, she has lost all mobility and been reduced to standard PIP.

I find the DWP a nightmare, I phone to ask if they had all the paperwork, only to be told we dont have that, troubled by that and checking, I phoned again today, only to be told yes we do have that paperwork and the Review form and notes supplied.

If I lied on my paperwork they could take me to court and claim back any benefit paid, the assessor can lie and there is no recourse, complaints while they do register are pointless as nothing changes, they suffer no sanctions.

Benistmonk

@madquasimodo That's it exactly, if we lie to make a claim, we can be jailed for fraud. The DWP, HCP can lie all day long and no notice is taken, they can ignore expert medical evidence and nothing is done about it. If you complain, the same people who lied in the first place are asked to look at your claim again. It is like asking a firing squad for clemency, a complete waste of time.

tara2019

i will keep you updated thanks x

tara2019

I've sent the Mr  dwp received all 42 pages of more medica.l physio letters msk information mental health stuff 3/4 examples step by step against the descriptors and not fit for work note dwp  signed for it Fri should I get my daughter to ring in morning to ask if they getting on with it

poppy123456

There's no timescales for decision but it can take anything up tp 8 weeks, sometimes longer. Signed for doesn't mean it's arrived with DWP, it just means it's been signed for by someone at royal mail sorting office.

tara2019

I'll still get my daughter to ring tomorrow 

tara2019

suprise suprise just gor MR letter no change to points 6/4 even though support letters from msk specialist, physio reports,my doctors input, pain clinic, mental health team, and occupation therapist stating i need help and adaptations in my home on daily activitives, and mobility, and mental health is severe and how its all effecting my life so tribunal it has to be any advice on tribunal 

sandi1234

I am going through this myself,  I failed my ESA, and the mandatory one too.
I went to my doctors and he gave me a fit note.
I have just found out it is not to be accepted and I will be getting £43 A MONTH.  They lied about me too, twisted everything. It's a DISGUSTING way to treat people, and only adds to the stress. Which in turn can cause all sorts of long term illnesses,  this government should be ashamed of themselves.  While they waste so much money.

Waylay

@tara2019 and @sandi1234
Yes, this process is incredibly poorly designed, and the damage it's doing to claimants is criminal. I got 0,0 on my last PIP assessment, down from standard, standard, and my report was full of major errors. I was SO angry at the assessor, but having learned about the (far too short!)10-20 mins the assessors have to look through paperwork before the assessment, I'm now much more angry with IAS and the DWP! My evidence was there, but he didn't look at it! My Case Manager didn't look at it either, and neither did the CM who did the MR. What a colossal waste of time and money!!! 

I went to tribunal and got 17 points total, standard, standard. My mh and chronic pain went down the tubes, though, and I'm still recovering. 

Tribunals look at all the evidence, and 71% of claimants who attend the tribunal appeal win. It often takes a really long time, tho, depending where you are. I think it was 9.5 months for me. You can request to have a quicker tribunal, though. I don't know anything about that, but you should look into it .

You need to fill out a form called the SSCS1. I believe it's online now. You should set out the basic reasons why you're appealing, but you don't have to give the details yet. This form, and a copy of your MR letter, need to be sent within a month, technically. 

Then you want to write a submission to the tribunal about your case. Don't say that the assessor lied! They hate that. Say something like, "The assessor didn't get a good idea of how my disabilities affect me". 

Say which questions you're arguing about. Describe which descriptor you think you should get. Remember that it's all about how your health conditions affect your function, so don't say, "I can't cook a simple meal because I have AlienDeathFlu", say, "My ADF makes me dizzy, so I can't cook because I tend to fall and hurt myself, or drop things, or burn myself." Remember that you need to be unable to do it for >50% of the time (I tend to say days/week, but whatever works for you). So, "I'm so dizzy that I can fall at least 70% of the day, 5 days a week. I fall about 165,000 times a week (heh)." Link to evidence. "See attachment 1, page 2." The evidence is useful if it says that you're dizzy approximately 70% of the day, 5 days a week, or that you have regular falls, or, perhaps, shows that you've been treated multiple times for burns due to touching the hob when dizzy. You can ask a carer, or a family member/friend who knows you really well, to write a letter backing you up. Finally, give a few examples of what happens when you've tried to cook anyway. 

Then move on to the next question. 

Hope that helps. 

Good luck!