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This all just seems a bit strange to me?

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    HI,

    That's a long post but i'll try to help.

    When you went to the Tribunal you were awarded limited capability for work (WRAG for ESA) when did your claim for ESA first start? and were you in the WRAG before you were originally found fit for work with ESA?

    are you under or over 25?

    do you claim PIP or DLA, if so what award do you have? Do you live alone or with a partner?

    As UC is paid monthly and ESA was paid every fortnight then it can look like you're receiving less money but it doesn't always work out like that when calculating the figures as a monthly figure.

    Do you claim carers allowance for looking after someone?

    When looking at your online journal does it tell you how much you receive for the housing element?

    Limited capability for work for UC means you're in the work preparation group.  For your claimant commitment you'll be expected to take reasonable steps to prepare for work, such as attending a skills assessment, preparing a CV, participating in training or an employment programme, and undertaking work experience or a work placement. You are not expected to look for work at any point.

    A sanction may be applied to your Universal Credit award if you fail to undertake work-related activity.

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You'll need to speak to your work coach regarding that. If you're in the LCW group then you can't be made to look for work but they can expect you to take steps to prepare for work.

    I can't help with anything else unless you answer my questions above.
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    The group you were in for ESA which was the WRAG was a lot less stressful for those in this group and a lot of people would just receive a quick phone call for their work focused interview.

    UC limited capability for work is different. It does depend on your work coach but as i have already advised, they can't make you look for work because you have a limited capability for work. They can request you prepare to work and to attend appointments/course etc. If you're not happy with your work coach then you can request a different one.

    For the amount of money you receive the standard allowance for over 25's is £317.82 per month LCW because your ESA started before April 2017 is £126.11 is a total of £443.93. Then you'll receive the housing element on top of that, and for you this will be the 1 bedroom rate but you'll need to check what your local housing allowance is for your area to see how much you're entitled to for the housing element. This can be checked here. https://lha-direct.voa.gov.uk/bedroomcalculator.aspx

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  • RoddyRoddy Member Posts: 389 Pioneering
    Hi poppy

    But it says on my To do list 

    "To-do

     

    Take part in your work search review by phone

    This is to check you're doing everything you can to find a job, or earn more."

    Hi @[email protected]

    I know how confusing it is particularly if things haven't been explained in a way that we can understand. 

    May I suggest that you log-in to your Universal Credit and go to your 'Journal' page. This will enable you to send a message to your Work Coach. Keep the message brief, but ask him/her to telephone you as you need some clarification about your payments & benefits. They will not mind you doing this at all.  

    Your Work Coach is obliged to call you back or at least to confirm a time when they will. 

    You'll then be able to explain things to them and hopefully get the right answers. 
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You definitely won't receive £761.75 per month for UC. Even for ESA way back in 2011 that's more than you would have received. It's more than WRAG amount is now for claims that started before April 2017.

    You need to do what i advised and check what your local housing allowance is for your area based on 1 bedroom because living alone that's what you'll be entitled to. Then add on the £443.93 that i advised above and that will be what you should be claiming each month.
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  • BenistmonkBenistmonk Member Posts: 343 Pioneering
    My WRAG amount was, 135.00 pw HB, 101.00 pw ESA. for 4 weeks that came to 944.00 
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  • BenistmonkBenistmonk Member Posts: 343 Pioneering
    @ManyQuestions I am sorry to hear they are treating you so badly, this is the real face of UC, it doesn't make people who are ill better off. If anything it is threatening their very existence. If I were you, I would seriously consider contacting Watchdog or some branch of the media to expose this evil regime that attacks the most vulnerable people in our society.
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  • CockneyRebelCockneyRebel Member Posts: 5,257 Disability Gamechanger
    You should seek trained advice for a full benefits check from an advice agency near you, CAB or similar
    Be all you can be, make  every day count. Namaste
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  • BenistmonkBenistmonk Member Posts: 343 Pioneering
    @ManyQuestions I have a stalker on here who keeps correcting me so I can't say too much about the government on here except to say, they swear blind UC is helping everyone. Of course we know that is not true. 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    I called the Universal Credit helpline ta couple of days ago and asked how much I would get every month and they said this:

     "£317.82 standard allowance plus £334.26 for rent /£652 a month "

    I forgot that I had written this down on my computer notepad and I just found it a few minutes ago.
    This tells me that they are not paying you the extra £126 per month for limited capability for work (LCW) element. As your claim for ESA started before April 2017 then you should be paid this extra element. You need to put a note on your online journal to ask them to add this element to your monthly payments.

    Are you sending in sick notes?
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    When you were claiming ESA you were in the WRAG and you started your claim before April 2017 this means that for ESA you were entitled to the extra WRAG component which was why you were claiming £204 per week. If your claim had started after April 2017 then your fortnightly money would have been £146.20.

    When you transferred to UC you should have been given the same award that you had when you claimed ESA which for UC is LCW. This pays an extra £126 per month. Looking at your calculations above your monthly money is missing the LCW element which is £126 month extra. This will be why your online journal is telling you, you need to look for work.

    What you need to do is ring ESA and ask for a call back from a case manager. When you get the call back you need to tell them that you transferred to UC and ask them to send across the award you had for ESA to UC. Once this is done you'll be paid the extra money and your work commitments will be changed and you won't be required to look for work.


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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You're very welcome!
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  • BenistmonkBenistmonk Member Posts: 343 Pioneering
    @ManyQuestions It makes me wonder how the DWP get something as simple as paying the correct amount of benefit wrong, was it deliberate or plain stupidity. Either way, I hope they sort your money out soon.  :)
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    @ManyQuestions It makes me wonder how the DWP get something as simple as paying the correct amount of benefit wrong, was it deliberate or plain stupidity. Either way, I hope they sort your money out soon.  :)
    When transferring from ESA to UC it happens everytime. This is because the ESA award has to be sent to UC manually. Yes, i know they're both DWP but nothing is logical when it comes to them.
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