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Income Support to ESA transitional support

fossouxfossoux Member Posts: 32 Connected
Any advice would be gratefully received:

I had been in receipt of Income Support and DLA for many years. 

When Income Suppprt ended, I was asked to apply for ESA which I did. I was placed in the support group from the outset and have been since. 

Whilst on IS, I also received the additional disability premiums along with payments as I have 2 dependant children.

When I was moved onto ESA, the child payment part was taken over by HMRC and the other payments continued to be paid by ESA (DWP).

I was told that I would receive transitional support which meant that my IS payments would remain the same under ESA.

When ESA began payment, I was underpaid about £20 per week after I had added up Child Tax Credits and ESA compared to what I was receiving under IS.

Is there a way to ask for this to be reviewed as it’s continued for several years.

Also does the transitional protection continue whilst ESA is in payment or does it ever end after a certain time?

thanks for reading and advising if you can.

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    edited March 2019
    Hi,

    I've never known any transitional support protection to be paid to anyone that's transferred from Income support to ESA.  There's a disability premium that's paid when claiming Income Support that isn't paid when claiming ESA and vise vera. The disability premium of £35.55 per week (from April 2018) isn't payable to those claiming ESA and it's not paid because you have 2 dependent children, it's paid because of a PIP/DLA award.

    The Enhanced disability premium of £16.40 per week (from April 2018) is only paid paid to those in the Support Group for ESA.

    There was a transitional support protection in place for those that transferred from Incapacity benefit to ESA but not Income support.

    However, the Support Group for ESA pays more than you would receive if you were claiming Income support, so i'm a little confused here. I used to claim Income Support about 7-8 years ago and i don't ever remember having any extra payments in my money for my dependent children. This has always been paid through child tax credits and child benefit. Income support money is for yourself not for your children.

    May i ask if you're still claiming DLA mid/high rate care or PIP daily living and is it just yourself and your dependent children living at home? If so then does any claim carers allowance for looking after you?

    Income Related ESA Support Group is £127.15 per week (more if a person is entitled to Severe disability premium)

    Income support for those claiming PIP/DLA is £106.65 per week. (more if a person is entitled to Severe disability premium)
    Figures are from April 2018 ( single person) so would be less in previous years.

    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • fossouxfossoux Member Posts: 32 Connected
    Hello @poppy123456, thank you for your help, again.

    Yes, when I was in receipt of IS, before asking to claim ESA, several years ago, I received payment for my children, from INcome Support as well as from Child Benefit. The payments made by IS for my children only changed to being paid by Tax Credits (HMRC) when I moved to ESA.

    I migrated from DLA to PIP several years ago and receive high rate Daily Living and High Rate mobility components, although only after appealing.

    My wife receives Carers Allowance as she is also my carer and I receive the disability premiums from ESA. She is my full time career and I receive ESA as a couple.

    Hope that helps. I will ask my wife to dig out the old IS letters to check which premiums we were receiving but was definitely receiving just over £20 more per week under IS than we do now. I know it’s not a lot but over the years it does add up. Thank you, you’ve always been most helpful.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    This is extremely complicated and you really need to take all your paper work and get some expert face to face advice from and advice centre near you. https://advicelocal.uk/

    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • fossouxfossoux Member Posts: 32 Connected
    Thank you @poppy123456, yes I might have to although getting there and then to have explain it all seems more trouble than it’s worth. But yes, I shall and thank you- you’re so very kind in offering the amount of advice that you do.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You're very welcome. I realise it's a lot of hassle but sometimes it's impossible to give advice like this on a forum because we could literally be here all day. Taking all your paperwork to an advice centre is a much better option because then they'll be able to see what you've claimed and how much. Hopefully they'll give you the advice you need. Good luck.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
  • fossouxfossoux Member Posts: 32 Connected
    Thank you @poppy123456- yes, I will go to seek advice. Do you know if the cab have Specialist benefit advisors that will be able to help with this point? Thank you again.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Some CAB adviser do yes but not all. If you have a welfare rights or law centre near you then maybe make an appointment with one of those. Use the link i posted above to see what exactly is in your area. CAB are very often extremely busy and getting an appointment there is a nightmare.
    Proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice I have given to members here on the community.
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