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Pip review assessment please help

hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
edited April 2019 in PIP, DLA and AA
Hi all I've got my assessment coming up and I'm so worried about it , I filled my review form in myself and I don't know if I've done it right I've been diagnosed with two new conditions aswell but I'm so worried just wondering if anyone's got any advice please it's making me feel sick , I have generalised anxiety disorder , panic disorder , cyclothymia and social anxiety disorder 

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  • Ami2301Ami2301 Member Posts: 7,418 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi @hope25 welcome to the community! First of all, I want to reassure you that you are OK and safe. You're now part of a supportive community who will help you as much as we can :)

    I have a PIP reassessment coming up soon too. It's a home visit. I'm a little nervous but I know it's got to be done. They just need to clarify what you have stated in your review form. It's not about what you are diagnosed with but instead it focuses on how your conditions affect your ability to carry out daily tasks and your mobility :)
    Disability Gamechanger - 2019
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    edited April 2019
    Hi hope25, I had mine just over a week ago, I have severe anxiety, agoraphobia, maybe social anxiety, depression and fibromyalgia.

    I trusted Welfare Rights to do my review form. 

    Have a look at this post, it has some good info and advice in it :) Scroll up to the top if it sends you to the bottom of the thread :)

    https://community.scope.org.uk/discussion/56365/pip-form-filling
  • madquasimodomadquasimodo Member Posts: 130 Courageous
    I would say don't treat this as a review, get your paperwork up together and take it as your first assessment, make sure you cover everything, they should read up on your case before assessing you, but don't assume they will just rubber stamp all your old details, when you get to the medical check try to do as asked, but don't push too hard and hurt yourself, tell them if you cant do anything, if doing so will cause pain, try and explain each descriptor fully as they might take no notice of your other paperwork especially if its been a year or so since it was done. Its not as bad as you think, getting through the door is the worst part 
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Thank you everyone , I filled the form in myself and didn't really know what to put how to explain , but I've only just been diagnosed with GAD and panic disorder so I'm wondering if that's s why I've been called for a review ? 
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Thank you everyone , I filled the form in myself and didn't really know what to put how to explain , but I've only just been diagnosed with GAD and panic disorder so I'm wondering if that's s why I've been called for a review ? 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    Most people tend to have assessments from what I've been reading. I had mine just over a week ago.
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Hi just an update the pip assessment cancelled on me an hour before my appointment and told me I had to wait another two week , I'm so stressed out with it all just want it over with tbh ... I hope yours went well 
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing team Posts: 7,923

    Scope community team

    How frustrating @hope25! I'm glad they've given you another date though and hopefully the two weeks will go past quickly for you. 
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  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    I know I just hope it goes well now I'm so anxious ... thank you 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    *hugs* I know that feeling only too well! I get those horrible butterflies with mine.
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Thank you , I wouldn't wish it on anybody it's hard for support with some of my family aswell they don't believe in mental health , so it's nice to have something like this to turn to 😊
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    Yeah, my Son understands it because he has anxiety himself, my Mum tries to understand as well. That's the only two I bother with in real life in all honesty.
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    I only have a handful of ppl too , it's just a sad time feeling like you have prove yourself it's hard enough 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    I agree.

    The other thing that bothers me is the amount of conflicting evidence in regards to evidence, not everyone has up to date evidence or any at all, especially not evidence that explains how you are affected on a daily basis, I don't have treatment for my mental health anymore because it didn't help, I was advised to stop taking medication because it didn't help and I have zero evidence in regards to fibromyalgia because I've been diagnosed by three different gp's but because of NHS backlogs and treatment having limited or no effect they won't refer me and I can't take painkillers due to stomach and swallowing problems. So I've been extremely anxious about this review, it's really made me feel a lot worse. I should stop looking at forums really!

    I hope you are doing ok.
  • madquasimodomadquasimodo Member Posts: 130 Courageous
    You are right it's a problem sorting out reports and medical data, but you have to explain how your problems effect you, some on here have been able to get a good result with little or no paperwork, I think it's luck of the draw personally, if you had problems with one painkiller ask your GP if you can try a different one or referred to a pain clinic (if they have access to one)
    Remember everyone has had problems with different things, many may not apply in your case, so forget the scare stories, on my second F2F I had a mental health nurse, who was familiar with my other problems and I had a fair assessment, not as good as I wanted or thought, but fair.

    Even if you lose your award, should you feel you still have problems you can try again, second time round it's a lot less daunting, time consuming yes but less stress.   
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    Welfare Rights filled my review form out, they never asked me for 2 - 3 examples and said the onus was on them to prove that I had gotten better and that evidence is only really needed for MR's and tribunals. 

    Yeah, I mean nothing has gotten better really, I'm worse if anything, the GP's won't refer me to anything for FM because treatment has little or no affect on it sadly. 

    The first time around it was pretty much based on my mental health and all they had evidence wise was a letter from my GP explaining that I had tried different things to help myself but nothing had worked etc. it wasn't a long letter but it seemed to help, Capita asked the GP for the letter though. I didn't have a FM diagnoses then. 

    Not everyone has evidence to say how they are affected on a daily basis.

    The assessor I had was ok, he was understanding, he let my Son help as well, he recapped what he had typed out etc. but we shall see.

    Forums like these with mixed information can make people like me very anxious (no offence).
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    The onus is always on you to make sure evidence is sent to support your claim and to prove you qualify, not their's.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • twonkertwonker Posts: 617 Member
    Initially when PIP first came out the onus was on the DWP/assessor to disprove what you are claiming. Over time that has been reversed to suit both the DWP and the assessor. As was pointed out, it is now the case that you have to prove with evidence that what you claim is exactly the truth.
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    twonker said:
    Initially when PIP first came out the onus was on the DWP/assessor to disprove what you are claiming. Over time that has been reversed to suit both the DWP and the assessor. As was pointed out, it is now the case that you have to prove with evidence that what you claim is exactly the truth.
    Are you sure about that? That wasn't what it was like when i first claimed PIP in 2013. As they ask for names of GP's people automatically assume they contact them. They always asked for names of GP's etc, just like they do now.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    edited April 2019
    I wasn't aware anyone said the onus wasn't on the claimant? I simply repeated what Welfare Rights said, doesn't mean I've listened to them which is why I'm pretty anxious about it. Also @mikehughescq has said several times that over 50% of people are awarded pip without evidence, I'm not saying I'm going to be awarded again hence the being anxious, I'll just have to wait and see.

    I was sharing my concerns is all.. this is why I don't post questions on the forums, I end up being made anxious.
  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,914 Disability Gamechanger
    For purposes of clarity what I said was that where awards are made 52% are made without “medical evidence” as opposed to “without evidence”, which is not quite the same thing. 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    edited April 2019
    @mikehughescq I meant medical evidence, I'm not great at typing things out. I don't have any up to date medical evidence in regards to my mental health and none in regards to fibromyalgia. 

    What other evidence can you use? If you don't mind me asking. My Son sent a letter of support, he's also my carer.
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    WF2k said:
    @mikehughescq I meant medical evidence, I'm not great at typing things out. I don't have any up to date medical evidence in regards to my mental health and none in regards to fibromyalgia. 

    What other evidence can you use? If you don't mind me asking. My Son sent a letter of support, he's also my carer.
    I hope things work out for you .. hugs xx
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Had my assessment i had to wait 3 quarters of an hour from my appointment time because the assessor wasn't ready , he was pretty quiet tbh asked me a few questions some I don't get why they are relevant but hey ho, I had a letter from my doctor's and a letter from my therapist as evidence so just see how it goes now , but judging from some peoples stories on here I don't think I'll still carry on getting it the last time I went I had a cpn who took me but I've been discharged from them now , it's super stressful all this , I find making doctor's appointment overwhelming this has actually threw me 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    Thank you hope, hope you're ok after your assessment and everything went well.

    It is pretty stressful, I haven't been to see my GP since October last year, I find going to appointments or even having people in my home a tad stressful.

  • mikehughescqmikehughescq Member Posts: 5,914 Disability Gamechanger
    Best evidence by far is anecdotal example. Detailed examples of what happened the last couple of times you attempted a specific points scoring activity. When; where; what happened who was there; what happened next and so on. Two per points scoring activity is more than enough. Add extra sheets if you need to. Brings your case to life by showing a decision maker the real world consequences of your condition. That’s really all that’s needed for most disability benefit claims or challenges. 
  • twonkertwonker Posts: 617 Member
    twonker said:
    Initially when PIP first came out the onus was on the DWP/assessor to disprove what you are claiming. Over time that has been reversed to suit both the DWP and the assessor. As was pointed out, it is now the case that you have to prove with evidence that what you claim is exactly the truth.
    Are you sure about that? That wasn't what it was like when i first claimed PIP in 2013. As they ask for names of GP's people automatically assume they contact them. They always asked for names of GP's etc, just like they do now.
    Yes, if you have a read of the 1st review of PIP it clearly states that it is for the DWP/assessor to seek out the relevant evidence. That is why they ask for the contact details when you make the phone call. They were supposed to gather the evidence first in order that a decision could be made if a face to face assessment was actually required. If you refer to page 54 of that attached report and especially section 8 on page 55 you will see what I mean.

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/387981/pip-assessment-first-independent-review.pdf
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Thank you , I feel the same but as I'm getting physical symptoms aswell with the panic attacks I was desperate for help they scare the life out of me I don't feel like I'm attached to my self a lot of times aswell it's weird to try explain ... Honestly tho fingers crossed for you I know everyone's different and everyone moves at their own pace we all deal with things differently don't give up keep trying your worth it 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    Thank you @mikehughescq the thing is Welfare Rights filled in my review form and they never asked for examples :( I don't know if it was because it was a review form or what.

    @hope25 Yeah sometimes it helps to seek medical advice, in my case it hasn't but like you said everyone is different. Fingers crossed for you also :) thank you.
  • April2018momApril2018mom Posts: 2,869 Member
    We have our assessment tomorrow. Don’t hesitate to ask questions. The whole point of the assessment is to basically ask you some questions and look at the evidence. I showed them photocopies of the letters and reports from the doctors and therapists involved last time they did a assessment.
    It was a relatively quick assessment. Try to relax. This is a good opportunity to get the help you need. Do you have a social worker or not? My son’s amazing social worker helped me with the process. 
  • twonkertwonker Posts: 617 Member
    ilovecats said:
    twonker said:
    Yes, if you have a read of the 1st review of PIP it clearly states that it is for the DWP/assessor to seek out the relevant evidence. That is why they ask for the contact details when you make the phone call. They were supposed to gather the evidence first in order that a decision could be made if a face to face assessment was actually required. If you refer to page 54 of that attached report and especially section 8 on page 55 you will see what I mean.

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/387981/pip-assessment-first-independent-review.pdf
    The assessor who sees you on the day will not contact any medical professional unless it is to report an 'unexpected finding'. They do not know who they are seeing until they arrive and the claimants are allocated on an arrival basis to whichever HP is available. 

    Back office HP's who review all claims prior to advising face to face assessment will often try to call GP's, specialists, CPN's etc but more often than not people will not give information over the phone. They also send requests for information to GP's, however these are 9/10 times either not returned or are returned with very limited information, they are filled out by a receptionist on behalf of the GP or not returned quick enough. In the 2 years I assessed, I would say maybe 1/10 actually had useful information on there.

    There is limited time to gather information to try and complete a paper based assessment due to DWP targets which is why is appears that no contact has been made.
    I am in no doubt that what you are saying is exactly the situation due to the targets set by the DWP. Yet the fact is that when PIP was devised the further evidence (other than what the claimant had to hand when sending the PIP2 in) should have been actioned by the assessing company within the 4 week period from first contact to when the PIP2 was returned by the assessing company. The only responsibility was for the claimant to send in what they had to hand and were specifically not to go looking for information they did not have and  should not ask anyone to send it to them as it may well incur a cost.

    As time has moved on the DWP/assessing company has now washed their hands in asking for this evidence prior to a decision being made for a face to face assessment and are forcing the claimant to do the work that they were supposed to do when PIP came about.

    Making the claimant responsible for gathering the evidence can then be used against the claimant if none is sent in by way of unproven statements on the PIP2 resulting in failed claims.

    Irrespective of the reasons why all parties have decided to move the goalposts it is not what PIP is all about It is not for the claimant to 'prove' their case, they have made it by completing the PIP2 it is for the DWP to disprove the claim by way of a face to face assessment if need be. 

    Sorry Ilovecats, this is a bone of contention for me that when a government department are given instructions to do something it is unacceptable for them to turn round and say that it takes too long so pass the buck to the claimant.
  • madquasimodomadquasimodo Member Posts: 130 Courageous
    twonker the system is borked full stop, when my partner had her F2F we supplied the report from the Neurologist and Physio, both listing what was wrong and how it effected her, the DM made an award, we did the MR and got a call back from the (case manager?) I pointed out during the F2F no musculoskeletal examination took place due to her inability to stand or balance, her ability to do the required ROM was very poor and it was not done, the award was made on the results of her full musculoskeletal examination, which she was supposed to have passed with flying colours, despite pointing out the exam had not been done and the award was based on one being done and her passing they still refused to amend the award, 1 year later the Tribunal offered the enhanced PIP and lower mobility as we sat down (why not phone and stop wasting court time) they asked if she would like to try for full mobility, she did and they gave it to her, a total waste of time and money. 
    Even with evidence showing otherwise the MR ignored the award was made based on an musculoskeletal examination which never happened.
    We did ask her Doctor for a medical report, he refused point blank, stating the DWP/assessment centre had to request it. He would not "do it twice" 
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    I feel so bad for the people that have to go through all this from start to finish , I can't get my head round it and there's people worse than me I wish there was something I could do for everyone ... I get there are people out there that try and have the system over but this is just getting ridiculous ... Genuine people needing help are being forced to into an absolute whirlwind of stress ect... 😢 ... I know there are some good stories out there about the whole process but it seems there's more bad , how can these assessor's that lie live with themselves I just don't understand ....all these stories of people on here is making me worry about everyone I know its my fault for reading them it's just the way I am but it makes me feel like I need to do something to put it right literally my heart goes out to you all .... 
  • twonkertwonker Posts: 617 Member
    hope25 said:
    I feel so bad for the people that have to go through all this from start to finish , I can't get my head round it and there's people worse than me I wish there was something I could do for everyone ... I get there are people out there that try and have the system over but this is just getting ridiculous ... Genuine people needing help are being forced to into an absolute whirlwind of stress ect... 😢 ... I know there are some good stories out there about the whole process but it seems there's more bad , how can these assessor's that lie live with themselves I just don't understand ....all these stories of people on here is making me worry about everyone I know its my fault for reading them it's just the way I am but it makes me feel like I need to do something to put it right literally my heart goes out to you all .... 
    Don't start worrying about everyone else. You have your own problems to cope with.
    It does get to you, some just give up because they can't stand the stress of it all and others just accept what the DWP give you. I've always wondered how some claimants have the fight in them to take on the DWP. 
    In time you just get used to what they want to put you through. 
    I'm 70 next month and looking forward to my next review in 12 months time. I have this system to put up with for the rest of my life.
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Honestly I can't help it , it's such ashame that we feel let down by the system so much I don't think those in power have any idea what "normal" life is like ... Having communities like this is a blessing in a lot of ways I just struggle with knowing that so many people are struggling ... Fingers crossed for your next review stay strong 😊
  • madquasimodomadquasimodo Member Posts: 130 Courageous
    Blame the government (all of them) there has been a effort to vilify the old, disabled, poor by all governments, each week papers report some benefit cheat, mostly on DLA, which was much easier to get in the past, we all see them, someone playing cricket who claims they can't walk, someone playing football who can't leave the house.
    If you read the government statistics there is a large amount un-claimed in benefits, probably not wanting to be in the "system" or too frightened to try claiming as the forms are not easy, yet the benefit system is geared to ignoring your statement of what you can do, you say you cant manage, the assessor says you can, their word is gospel and must be believed, you are branded a fraud or liar. Even with supporting evidence, they can dismiss anything you show or say, and add their own "version" which is politically enforced doctrine from above. 

    Anyone living with a disability knows how hard it can be to just get out of bed some days, and to face that day after day, in desperation I phoned the Samaritans after a really bad day, after 2 hours on the phone they said call the doctor, I have seen it said on here, some people get a disabled "mindset" they get diagnosed and then hang on to that, in effect becoming more dependant on being "ill". Shocking to hear someone claim that, while there may be the odd cheat making a career out of benefits many would like nothing better than to be free of pain and normal.       
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Couldn't have said it better myself ! ... You are completely right , we should not have to "prove " ourselves to anyone really especially with supporting evidence from the people who see us and help us deal with our disabilities,  I can imagine so many people out there needing help too it's so sad 😢 
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    I answered the assessor questions honestly and to the point I think , but I didn't feel well and was very anxious my partner came with me but I've been reading some stuff on here just wondering as he asked how often I go out even tho I told him I pick my son up everyday from school but have to be with someone will that go against me ? ... Its just playing on my mind sorry 
  • madquasimodomadquasimodo Member Posts: 130 Courageous
    I am sure someone will comment with more insight which may help. I seen people who don't go out fail the planning bit, as just not going out does not mean you can't go out, some have said going to say pick up from school is different from asking if you could go to a place you don't know or could you plan a route, sadly most of us can force ourselves to pick up from school even if you feel bad, same as going to hospital or doctors, it's a bit different going somewhere new, my partner "should" go to a specialist in London but has put it off as she could not cope with the journey or the fear of being attacked, she is pretty much helpless in keeping a proper walk and needs help, but being stubborn she resents any interference in he perceived walking line. Making life hard seems to be the norm.
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    It's so stupid , I just feel like it puts people in a position it's not fair really , I go to school late on purpose to avoid the haul of people altho I know most of them it really distresses me it's too much 
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Hi all I'm literally in such a state ive just rang pip to see why they haven't sent me the report anyway it hasn't even been sent out to me , so I asked if he could read some out to me and it seems the assessor has lied on the report saying I was calm ect ... I was not calm as I've told you above it seems I've scored 0 , I don't know what to do now I can't deal with this I have so much going on why do they do this ! 😢
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    edited May 2019
    Sorry to hear that hope25, I'm still waiting to hear about mine, my Son asked for the report a couple of weeks ago but they never sent it, he's just called again, no decision has been made and the person said they'd send a copy of the report.

    Welfare Rights just checked up to see what was happening as well.

    When you get your decision in writing, you can ask for a MR. Do you have a local advice centre there that can help you?
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Honestly I can't think straight , i asked if he would read some over the phone to me and he's literally scored me 0 on most of the descriptors ... They haven't made a decision yet on mine yet either but going off that what the assessor put it's a no no ... I was ill on the day aswell so I don't know why he has said what he's said they shouldn't put people through this 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    Yeah, it makes our mental health worse and even physical health.

    While you are waiting for a decision, see if you have a advice centre in your area that can help, like CAB, Welfare Rights etc.
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    It's awful isn't it ... Why do they lie like this I don't understand it's all gone against me because I don't have a cpn anymore and only have access to CBT he's put I have no input from mental health teams ... It's not fair we are judged by that when we've gone through all resources they discharge you because there's nothing they can do once diagnosed apart from therapy and medication and sometimes that doesn't work .

    I've just rang CAB but there's nothing they can do till I have a decision then they will help me with the MR so I've just got to wait now .

    I wish I'd never asked tbh it's sent my head west least I know what to expect I suppose

    Fingers crossed for you .
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    Thanks, I don't know how this assessment went, I'll just have to way and see what the report says.

    I was sat here all anxious when my Son called to ask for the report, I was relieved when he said a decision hadn't been made yet lol, yes I am a tad weird!
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Well I hope it all goes well , your not weird I felt the same tbh just wish I hadn't asked what was written in the report 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    edited May 2019
    Thanks, I think you probably asked because waiting was also making you anxious and messing with your mental health? and then when it was bad news that made you feel worse. When I first claimed PIP I wasn't at all worried about the end result and that's because I wasn't getting the money to start with but now I am getting the money, I am now worried about the end result.. I would say that out of all of my health problems, my mental health problems causes me the most grief.
  • twonkertwonker Posts: 617 Member
    hope25 said:
    I don't have a cpn anymore and only have access to CBT he's put I have no input from mental health teams ... It's not fair we are judged by that when we've gone through all resources they discharge you because there's nothing they can do once diagnosed apart from therapy and medication and sometimes that doesn't work .
    Assessors tend to work on the basis that a claimant not involved in receiving consultant led care does not have a serious enough mental health problem to warrant a PIP award.
    I understand what you mean about being discharged back to the GP which was the same for me. According to their assessment report I no longer have any mental illness! Me wonders why I am still on 200mg of Sertraline daily and always have the opportunity of going back to the consultant if I think things are going downhill.
    I gave up fighting that part of the battle with the DWP as no matter what I say or evidence would never change their mind simply because I am not wasting the valuable time seeing a consultant when I don't need him. 
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 587 Listener
    I no longer have treatment but was awarded PIP in 2014 mainly based on my mental health problems and no, I didn't have pages of evidence either, I had two letters, one confirmed what I had the other was my GP stating I had trying various things to help myself but nothing worked, I was awarded enhanced for 5 years. My previous GP refused to give these assessment centres a lot of info, she said they weren't properly qualified. She was always pretty supportive and never charged me for letters.

    I mean it could be different now? I don't know. I had my review assessment last month, so I'll have to say what the report says when I get it.
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    Well I've received my assessment report today and he's scored me fit and healthy basically ... It says to review me after two years as I do have long term mental health conditions but scored me according to the actual day he saw me saying I can do this and that without any help  .. I wasn't well and I can prove that as I went to the doctor's the day after also I was so nervous my legs were shaking and I was sat fanning myself with the leaflet... He's said I was fine answered all his questions have a good understanding of my mental health which he didn't even ask me ect... It makes me laugh they can acknowledge people have issues but say they are fine how do they know from an hour being with them especially when they have lots of evidence regarding how disabilities affect us , how are they allowed to go against the people who know us ! 
  • hope25hope25 Member Posts: 36 Connected
    WF2k said:
    Thanks, I think you probably asked because waiting was also making you anxious and messing with your mental health? and then when it was bad news that made you feel worse. When I first claimed PIP I wasn't at all worried about the end result and that's because I wasn't getting the money to start with but now I am getting the money, I am now worried about the end result.. I would say that out of all of my health problems, my mental health problems causes me the most grief.
    Yes i understand , in all honesty I want to get back into work but it's so hard when you constantly overthinking I have no idea where to start and mental health doesn't just go away in a blink , I can't sleep it's making me worse I have a family I'm scared I'm not good enough for them and my friend keeps telling me I can work and what jobs to go for but I've said no I feel like I need to get support to help me back into work he doesn't understand he says ive annoyed him I say no to every job he mentions ... It's just not that easy I don't know if its just me honestly I feel like such a failure and burden again at the minute .
    I don't know if they do but I feel like my friend doesn't like me anymore I get this a lot though s..it's completely irrelevant to the issue of pip .
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