received ESA report in full this morning, yes on a Bank holiday Monday
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As this report is supposed to be based on facts, let me correct just some of the inaccuracies written, and so called spoken by me on the day, on reading the whole report, it's as if it was for someone else, kind of like me, but different in a number of ways, which I can now go into, with the follow errors corrected.
Again done by a Nurse with little to no understanding on my medical conditions or even with a minuscule ability to write / type what a person speaks word for word, as most of this in the report I was supposed to have said doesn't tally up with not only my 5 previous statements / reports or what I said, as there is no recording of the exam, even though I asked for it in advance on the form and on the day ( only to be told when asked, it would mean a failed to attend if I cancelled it now because of the lack of it) , in the end it's my word against hers, but as I have 4 past statements, I can at least say without any reproach to myself that any sane person would disagree with this report, and the persons competence with the amount of errors corrected.
Page 2 item 1
Medical conditions extra missed off, but mentioned on the day and in writing supplied and photo copied in advanced and sign and dated as received.
Report states, back problems, when I said the correct terms,
spondyloarthropathy, spondylarthritis.
canal stenosis with posterior disc bulges at L2/3 and L3/4, sagittal and axial T1 and T2, degeneration of lumber spine.
A degenerative disorder of the lower back, can see why she failed to write it down, maybe had no idea on the words, as both degeneration and degenerative both implies getting worse with age and wear, so doesn't really tally in with a 0 score she gave, points 1 to me,...
and where is, in the client states no other health problem?
chronic back pain, Sciatica, Panic attacks, anxiety, stress, frozen shoulder and trapped nerves to name just a few missed out!
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Medication, report states I brought none with me, well funny this, as if you go onto my last Tribunal hearing, when it was noted I carried everything with me in a bag brought with me, same one I took and was noted carrying in the above said report, so as I provided all medical notes and all tablets, as I cut the labels out and just keep the name of the tablet, the dose and who's it for etc, so dose, my name and tablet is all there in black and white and provided on the day and written in my notes sent in and received and signed for, so points to me 2.
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Medication, again errors in dose and tbh, if she is a Nurse, which beggars me to believe tbh wish such poor written and recording abilities, Paracetamol 1g dose? My god i'm so glad she didn't manage to be a Doctor, as one she can't read, and 2 she can't understand dosage what so ever , if she managed to look at the notes
provided for her and the tablet packets with my name on, she could have copied the correct amount down, not again just guessed something from memory or someone else, correct amount is 500MG, take 2 four times a day, it's not rocket science, it's written in black and white and was provided, so again points 3.
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Side affects due to medication,
drowsiness only? I'm sorry but you have got to be taking the wee wee, won't be rude, but as I explained on the day and on the form, side effect are mood swings, drowsiness, temper / aggression, lack of sleep, incontinence, IBS, perforations of the stomach lining (as mentioned in the hospitalized part of the statement) which again was provided but not read or understood. So again, lack of note taking, so another point to me, point 4 now....
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Description of Functional ability,
well tbh all of this is what I can remember, but more is missing, a lot more, I suffer from nerves and i'm a nervous talker, when i'm unsure or nervous my mouth wanders and I can blab on a bit, so I know i've mentioned more than this small part, don't agree with alleviate part either, for one with a keyboard and spell checker, i'm not the best of spellers, so tend to stick to words I can spell or get wrong that often that I leave how to use it, alleviate isn't a word I would have used, as my pain killers don't mask the pain some of the time, they are ok apart from when I have a flair up of Sciatica, where no amount of them helps, and where is the part of me saying “ it doesn't stop me from being so stiff, stiff as a board most days” end quote, as I say it so often, she would have been told, way often, as I mentioned how poor the chairs were in the reception compared to the last place, and in the exam, I kept moving as couldn't get comfy either.
Also disagree with the onset part, “many years ago” which sounds like it's not an issue today? Even if my treatment is ongoing? Lol, the more I read, the less I feel her ability to take notes and understand anything said or written, i'm so far going from incompetence to willful lying tbh in her written response, this isn't a verbal recording made for a report, it's fiction written after the facts, on part recollection on what may or may not have been said imo.
So i'll only go for ½ a point to me on this one, with her lack of recording my comments and errors missing some out...
Page 3 item 5a
Hypertension,
no mentioning again of out of breath getting up steps / stairs and any amount of walking, so why so none?
When mentioned and on the forms??????
Bladder Incontinence, again don't agree with many years ago, as for the same reasons, i'm still having it today, it was first medically found and treated many years ago, but same as IBS, both are still going and part of my life, something stress and lies don't make any easier either,...
disagree with amounts also, as like I said, it various from day to day, depending on how many times i've taken, with what else I get as side effects from them, as bladder and IBS is linked to them, plus add on stress on top, equals worse day, more chances of accident happening.
Mirgraine,
onset, again disagree with wording for same reasons, was found with a MRI brain scan yes years ago, but related to high blood pressure and stress, which makes them happen more often.
IBS,
Ditto the onset part for the same reasons, far more details added, yes uncomfortable and private, something she had no empathy with or wrote more details down that she needed to, as I went into more depth, seems she either doesn't like the subject or doesn't understand the outcomes of having it.
Page 4 item 5b
Repetitive strain RSI, ditto on the onset part, as to me again it implies it's not an issue now, but still is and gets worse in rain, damp weather and if on the key board too long, addicted to the net, so my own fault tbh, but don't go out a lot, and not a lot else to do.
Hearing
I don't have my ears tested every time I have my eyes done? So again not something I said either, so another error to add to an every growing list of errors in what is or should have been a factual report!!!
Shoulder
this part is mostly correct, what I said more is i'm work in progress on this part atm, as under the CMATS team in my area, so no more information on it atm, which is why I said it's work in progress and may be arthritis in me shoulder as GP also thinks, as I broke my collar bone and had it pushed through my shoulder blade when I was younger, so maybe why i'm having the problems now that I am with it.
There seems to be a lot missing from this section, even though I brought the paperwork and gave it her on the desk, same as my tablets and medical history is my short condensed form, as the 80 pages of hospital and consultants and professors notes were handed in and signed almost a month before, and I asked on the day if she had received and read the on the day, which she didn't respond with a yes no answer, just went onto the next leading question, which tbh are only there to trip you up, seems I was too smart for her and she didn't like it either.
Arthritis of hip
this is also work in progress, as like I said and wasn't recorded again, seems she only writes what she wishes to portray, as clearly if I say I i'm on pain killers which masks a given amount of pain responses from the brain, to still say I feel no pain only shows ho she lacks the understand on the condition at all, or has the ability to write what a person says on the subject, which is the only reason i'm be transferred to the back specialists in the first place, to see why it's getting worse and the pain killers are no longer effective, so totally disagree with this part, again none factual in a report, if I was her boss, she would be moved to a cleaning job, as her level of understanding on anything on the medical side, is surly lacking in her replies....
Stress related illness
well this part really does imo put icing on the cake, with her lack of basic understanding on the working of side effect, condition overall and long term tablet use, spelling, grammar and missed out parts, and she is supposed to be the professional?
“Has not ha any”
had a childhood psychiatrist at school? No, I had a educational psychiatrist at school to help me with stress of day to day life, not exams, i've not taken a single exam at school in my life and just another inaccuracies to make me wonder about this person incompetence, you have a duty of care as a examining body to me sure your assessor are competent in the field they are doing the assessment in.
Social history,
error on the one flight of stairs part, again, word for word it should be, not something made up to sound better or worse, I said and mentioned I have dog leg stairs, which is 6 steps, then a landing, which turns at an angle then another 6 steps, as my history was from the building trade, it's a common use of the correct term, something else she fails to record, and has no understanding on what is communicated and has little ability to write even a simple report, word for word without making errors and adding inaccuracies, but it gets worse,....
Occupational History
stopped working many years ago, er no, I said and I quote, I was forced to pack in work 20 years ago, and last worked in 1999, last job wasn't a plasterer either, so again she didn't listen.
The main reasons for leaving was family issues?
Lol, now come on, I couldn't make it up? But seems she can? I have no family issues, so where as this come from? From her head, as it's not from my mouth, that is for sure,...
I was Married on the 17th of September 1988, and split up and got devoiced on the 21st of February 1992, as I was having issues with my back, had no idea on what it was, made me poor to live with, then again I was a workaholic so that also didn't help, mood swings, lack of sleep and other issue.
But I still worked for 7 years afterwards, so where was my family issue? In her head, the Nurse, who has no idea on illness, can't even type what a person says, then makes things up afterwards to fit a given picture, you have made my day, this so on only 5 pages will be laughed out, hope you didn't mind me uploading it online, as it seems plenty of others are having a right laugh, at my stress maybe, but tbh I'm so great full for you providing me with such a star, makes the care against you so much easier, and yes once won I will be also going against you, and her, as both are plainly incompetent to a degree which is beyond reasonable doubt.
So another point to me 
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Description of a typical day,
stairs, nope, it's 6 steps, as all stairs are 13 steps for a standard house, so mines a dog leg, so it's 6 landing then 6 again making 13, if your going to do a report, do it right or not at all.
I don't do all the cooking, only when i'm feeling ok.
Same as washing and dressing.
Never sat for an hour in 20 odd years.
Never stated I could walk into town, I said when I was fitter, many years ago now, I could walk into town, now i'd be lucky to walk to the car and drive to town most days.
Not sure on this part, as again her typing just doesn't make sense, so I'll copy paste then amend it to what Ithink she said, as tbh it's anyone guess what she types or who she got it from with some of her comments, so here we go
“He makes GP bla bla online,,,,, but has not been to the doctors in a long time”? Lol, a Doctor sees me most months about something, but the but that doesn't make sense is the part that I seem to now be female ?
“because they refused to give her some tablets that the hospital recommended” i'm a he not a she, but again her mind is playing tricks on her ability to listen and understand and write a report accurately.
What she means to type and what I said, as it's my history, then in the past, with a previous doctor at my local practice, I was prescribed tablets from after a MRI brain scan, my own doctor at the time refused to give me a repeat proscription, so I argued the point with the practice manager and changed doctors after he said, “she can't change a hospital tablet without consultation with you and was wrong to shout at you in the practice”, all noted in my notes at the practice.
Atm I can do anywhere from 8 to 12 steps without acute pain in my back and hips, so stop every time to rest and recover, doesn't matter if it's on the flat or uphill, steps or anywhere, have enough witnesses who will swear on any bible that I walk like John Wayne, swinging my hips out as I was, are bent in the back, round shoulders and stoop.
See my answers on my page notes sent in on the form sent to you, it says it varies for everything on day to day, so he posts . Recount or report on this contradicts her assessments and replies on my so called Descriptions written on the report.
Another point to me,...
Page 6 item 6 from over the page addendum,
quite a lot still missing from this as well, but as shown, my nerves make me talk a lot, and it takes me a long while to settle down with anyone new, but won't say any of this page is wrong, just some missing that's all, as I waffle on far too much....
Medical Opinion
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so as I can't stand or sit without using a chair to lean on, seems she can't see
Client was able to sit in a chair for 55 mins? So was the same person not observing me when I move, alter position and even say “these chairs are about as comfortable as those in reception”?
Seems again she has no understanding on what's wrong with a person, no matter how hard they tell them how long they have prepared for a given assessment, like no food since a given time the day before so they don't need the loo, no liquid from the same amount of time, extra tabled taken to slow me down, quieten me down, calm me down an dull not only my senses, but my ability to feel well really much at all, seems she doesn't record or recollect my glassed eyes, even though she mentioned it on the day?
I know when i'm feeling calm and drugged up, I get into this state often enough to jump through hoops we have to do in life now days to get anything, so I'm now fit for work, on someone looks alone, no matter how many points I can prove she's wrong on?
So reaching, even though mentioned on previous pages, and struggling there and then, she can't see it?
Makes me wonder what the training involves,
as from looks, doesn't seem she was,
from recording, well hopefully I've shown enough of her lack of skills in this department.
From listening, well same answer from above, as what she hears, doesn't get written down, that is for sure, and her lack of typing skills and note taken alone, means she'd never get a job in an office, but medical skills, well none what so ever, i'd hazard a guess that more cleaner at any hospital can see much clearer than she can, and her understanding on anything to do with medical, is sub standard to a point which for me makes her incompetent at worse, inadequate and substandard at best, making not only the test and her not fit for purpose, but the training provided and ability to monitor and maintain and follow guidelines to a given standard, well below par.
So to sum in up in a brief statement now i've seen the full report,
after such insightful comments like,
looks well, coped well, did not require prompting, Behaved normally.... etc etc etc
most pages after 7 are copy paste of previous answers which have just be put in as to fill in a given part, no matter if there relevant or even true, so 28 pages of utter junk, if she is an approved disability Analyst then god help the nursing homes she goes into, and can fully understanding why the system as a whole is not fit for purpose any longer, see you at Tribunal, where medical evidence is read, guidelines are followed and assessors don't make half of it up, and write errors elsewhere to a standard which make me wonder if English has even been past any school level, let alone anywhere else, as not being able to write what a person says in a report accurately makes me wonder at her so called medical skills are altogether.
0 score,
meaning all previous assessments where null and void, so she is better than all the previous one, all 5, she must be such a help around the office and a credit to the NHS, who i'd say will be so sad to see her leave and do this as a job, i'd hazard a guess there were a whip round to see the back of her.
20 years of professors, senior consultants, consultants, and doctors have been over turned on a Nurses opinion from eye sight alone,
one who can't read, as too many errors in the report to say otherwise.
can't write, as the report speaks for itself, and farcical attention to details, mostly and sadly in my case wrong and inaccurate.
Then you wonder why 82% get over turned at Tribunal.
This is now being copied online to various web sites, to my local MP who I had a meeting with on the 18th of May 2019 and sent to the head of the DWP, for no other reasons to show others, how poor the system is, how it is abused and no longer fit for purpose, yes I keep saying this, as had it mentioned now by too many others, to think other wise.
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so apart from the extra stress and all that comes with it, i'm the same, getting older and worse each year, but on hind sight, i should have said no as soon as they didn't have the recording equipment which was asked for, and recorded on my paper and verbally on the day, but that's my fault, so i live and learn, i'm posting it here so others know, there not alone, and fight it, as when professionals do such a botch job, make them pay, when the DWP cares less, stand up and state, sorry i'm not a number, i'm a person with rights and the law on my side, and while i stay honest, seems not the same can be said with your assessors, the whole thing isn't fit for purpose and needs a review, to get a fairer, and medical assessment, not on looks alone, and done by the right people, those qualified to know, not some second or 3rd rate nurse who wouldn't get a job in the 3rd world country, let alone our NHS. these sort of people need to be removed, so there lack of knowledge and lack of understanding of simple medical details doesn't make others lives a misery with all the extra stress and worry that it brings,...
seems i won't go the same way, no matter the stress it causes and will take it as far as it will go, then fight some more to keep it going, for the others who can't, so in the end, the system changers, or i give up with old age and a care less attitude that some in the DWP have gotten into
i've not spent my time lying down and doing nothing, as when i worked in the building trade a licence to print money tbh i was always fit and did voluntary work in the evenings and weekends with swimming coaching and waterpolo and also was a school governor for 20 plus years, so spent all of the 6 weeks holidays every year away on primary school camps as a school helper, then when i was made to finish work, i kept on the evening and weekend stuff until i could no longer able to do it, then as i had little in the way of formal school educational qualifications etc, not been found dyslexic at school or needing to have worn glasses, it's not until after i left and was diagnosed later at college and spent then 8 years studying in one thing after enough to try and retrain, and got kicked of 2 coarse then as someone shopped me for being on full time when i shouldn't have been, so made a 4 year coarse take a lot longer to finish as i couldn't do the teaching hours to do it, so 4 years became 8 to get a computer science degree, with plenty of help mind you, as while i was top of the class of near it for most of the time in the can do part, the paper work and test side of it, i only just manged to scrap a pass at and only then with lots of support and help, so re trained i tried to get a job in the field i was now qualified it, only to find out my lack of English and math's skills from school held me back, so the degree was just a piece of paper and without experience and other basic skills qualification, there was only closed doors in my face and sorry for year after year, so what then, you sit the basic maths and English and go again, and then no experience or relevant past work lets you down, so by now i kind of came to a place where i'm at now, too old, no experience and no one willing to give some one with my background a chance, not that i blame them, there's plenty of fitter, younger and more able to fill the gap, so also it doesn't help that i didn't need to the money, i came to be quite lazy and careless kind of type, which every time something i tried, made me step in a different direction, mostly backwards and more inwards, as why try if no is always the answer, not had an interview now for 12 years and then made it to the last 2 and didn't get it, so maybe i am work shy or just lazy, something that posts and comments from 3 people this year alone has made me think more than once on, but one thing for sure, it's not until the last few years that there has been any help offered to the long term ill or sick or just out of work older generation as a whole, so maybe that's why a given % of my aged with some issues aren't today employed, but not sure it's only our fault either, as society has some part of this to blame, not given us a try, when only a little help and support would have in my case gone along way
Diazepam, first marketed as Valium is a godsend, but does make me rather dopey, so again no idea on how you cope at work with it, just makes me sleep, then again that's what i take amitriptaline for, as dual use as i have it for migraines as well.
never had or needed Gabapentin as not for my condition, but with that, you must be in somewhat of a worse place than me, so are coping better, can i ask your age? if you don't mind, no worries if you wish to not say, just wondered.
but not trying to be nosy, it never nice to see someone worse than you as i wouldn't wish it on anyone
while Metoclopramide sorted that out mosly for me, the damage is now done and long term, Propranolol a beta blocker for high blood pressure keeps me from falling down when i stand up, take Oxybutynin so i don't spend all day every day wetting myself and Citalopram to cheer me up, when i'm low, like atm lol, yes i can laugh, bathroom ceiling came down the other day in the storm, and most would think i'd won the lottery as i laughed out loud, what doesn't kill us can only make us stronger, everything happens for a reason, maybe god also thinks i'm idle as 20 years ago i would have gone on the roof, even though i don't like heights and fixed it myself, then done the bathroom ceiling the same day, and painted it as soon as dry, job done, but now, sometimes leaving the house some days is a strain without taking a tablet a few hours before hand to give me a boost
well some with short term damage have been corrected in 6 months to a year, with my age and amount of time with it, maybe 3 to 4 years of slow and re training the body to walk, stand and move / bend correctly which isn't as easy as it sounds, as everything i do, i seem now to do wrong, so have to go back to basics and re learn and strengthen the muscles in my back, body as a whole, hips and then can have work done on my osteoarthritis in my shoulder and back, so does this now mean they was correct to have failed me for ESA support group and found me fit to work? as it seems i'll need physiotherapy for the next 3 to 4 years, so doubled edged that is for sure, glad i'm not longer have such a poor back regarding the spine, that's good news, but the muscles are so weak i need to strengthen them and then alter my posture for the hold body and re learn to walk and stand, and sit correctly.
so good news for me, and they upped my pain tablets so well worth it.
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Whatever the decision from your MR at least the wait for that will be over soon and if you have to go on to tribunal, at least you can get the process started.
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if that's what your asking, and regards to ability to work, short term no, long term yes, as in 2 to 3 years if the physio goes well and my muscles strengthen enough to not give me the acute pain i'm in atm, and without the heart ache i'm having now and the extra tablets from it, i can't see any reasons apart from my age and no work history for 20 years keeping me from working once the physio's been done, hopefully fingers crossed that is, can't say i'd be going back into the building trade at my age, but a somewhat easier job i'd hope i'd be more than capable of.
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That said, I'm glad you've decided to go to tribunal. Please make sure to keep us updated on your progress.
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That sounds really positive on the work front. Don't forget, just because you've not been in work for an extended period, it doesn't mean you haven't been developing desirable traits and skills that are transferable in to the workplace. Be sure not to sell yourself short!
Hopefully your physio will begin soon too.
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Wishing you a lovely afternoon
so made and got a appointment for today on the same day, last friday, which was cancelled today, as Doctor phoned in sick, seems she knew i was coming lol.
so made another one for tomorrow, sick note please, backdated to april the 15th thanks.
so will update once i've been and see how that goes, without one i get the standard £72 backdated, with one, i get my full amount, of £115 backdated, so can at least pay off some debt and go and grab food myself, instead of others feeding me.
then wait until a date for the tribunal, and or a job comes my way,...
happy days are here again
well doctor first, he was brilliant and very supportive, backdated my fit note / sick note from 14th of april to last day of december this year, meaning the DWP has now to pay me the full amount while i'm awaiting tribunal, so that's one less to worry about.
had the felt sorted on mr roof by a mate, cost me a few drinks for him, so that's another worry less.
need to phone the DWP in 3 to 4 working days and see what happens now and how long before the money comes, as i've already waited more than 14 weeks, so hopefully now the notes gone in, not much longer now, so much happier, interview on Thursday and another one at the end of the month, so while there's still no light at the end of the tunnel, it's not so dark, bleak and black as it was when i started, so my glass is still half full and not half empty, my chins up, each time they knock me down, i get up and smile as i'm alive, poor, but alive so careless
I hope things continue to go in the right direction.
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had a reply, and another failed lol
"Dear xxxxxxxxxx,
Thank you for coming to your recent interview.
We very much enjoyed meeting you. However at this time we will not be progressing your application further.
If you would like any feedback following your interview please contact NAME and they will be more than happy to provide you with some feedback.
We genuinely appreciate the time, effort and consideration made when making your application."
about normal and par for the coarse, 22 done and dusted, phone interview then a meeting face to face, but then i fail at the next part, either another interview or being offered the job, but feedback is all good, so can't complain tbh
We'll keep our fingers crossed for you tomorrow, I really hope it goes well.
wasn't the only male there, which so far is the first, but again and upto yet have been the oldest by a long way,...
but not the only one with no experience, so a bonus, team session with questions went very well, seemed most didn't want to talk much, where i'm not that shy and spoke to everyone and about everything, researched my questions and had some good answers back, so fingers crossed, seem most are quite nervous, while i'm rather the odd one odd and really enjoy them, gets me out the house and when asked to talk, have plenty to talk about
Thank you for coming to your recent interview.
We very much enjoyed meeting you. However at this time we will not be progressing your application further.
If you would like any feedback following your interview please contact xxxxxx and they will be more than happy to provide you with some feedback.
We genuinely appreciate the time, effort and consideration made when making your application.
which im doing now while typing, seems it not yet my time for finding a job it seems, so i again try again
next, don't be so overconfident, as last few times i did all my research and knew the answers to every question asked, but in a group questions and answer sessions, when no one else wished or did put there hands up, maybe i did come across as a know it all, ah well, sit on hands then next time and don't' seem to eager, but have been told that knowing the answers is only part of what there after, so again you learn something every time, so inputted into brain also.
next, if you intimated the interviewers by being so relaxed and knowledgeable, then maybe your not getting the job office as your selling yourself a bit short, ah well no real answer for this, can't dumb myself down, and only going for the jobs on offer and quite happy to start at the bottom and see where it goes or stay put as long as it's work, seems my way of thinking is too old school now days, so will have the think on this one a bit more and just see how Thursdays interview goes and hope that lack of experience paid isn't such a bad thing when life experience and voluntary work experience is well more than most have by a factor of 10 as my age is double than most of the people there, ah to be young and a school leaver again
they won't say it's my age, as that's ageist, they can't say i'm going to women only jobs like housekeeping as that's sexist, but something is being put in my way, and that's 20 years of not working, so the work gap is a mountain that i'm climbing alone it seems.
but i keep trying all the same and will give feedback either way once it's done and results are known, thanks for reading, hope it all helps someone in the same boat, don't give in, as it's not you that's to blame, it's the system your in, imo only mind you,...
a tribunal date for the 26th of this month, what? lol only sent it in on the 22nd of June 2019, so that was quick, and my last one took a year, this one less than 6 months, so as i've had the back dated money today into the bank, minus £1k+ what the won't give me the full amount, only backdated £72 a week, not £115 like i was on, but careless, have a job now and no way going to quibble over that amount for the stress only to win and then say gets stuffed, i'm working next year!!!!!
so thanks, but no thanks, i wanted to prove a point, and that i have with the assessment center and it's appeal and level 2 tier to hearing done, won the 5 out of my 6 points of order, have taken the nurse and that's still ongoing with the NMC, so that will go the full course.
but now, chilled and relaxed, same person as before, still have the same condition i had 20 years ago, but no longer wish to jump through hoops and prove it, for what? a pittance, a begging bowl, and now Amber Crudd is also no longer in the job, can smile and see she also got what was coming to her, so Merry Christmas everyone, and hope everyone has a very happy new year,...
doctors and dentist, again both not known me for more than a year, as both practices are either new or changed.
no one from the DWP / DHS gives a toss and to be fair knows me even less, so will see what happens now, but hopefully won't fail and the last part, after already been offered the job and contract, but if something can't be done, not sure the start date of the 6th of Jan 2020 will be for me either, as not got where or when for my training as yet, so unless something happens, i have no idea, seems again 20 years in a system is held against you and keeps even now being thrown back into my face, what doesn't break me, only makes me stronger., and laugh more
mirror mirror on the way, stop making it so difficult, before i fall, seems a conditional job offer was just maybe that if something on there end at human resources doesn't budge, fingers crossed, but knowing my luck, will go the same way as my Tribunal hearing dated for the 26th of this month, the same date i have to be in 2 places for my doctors and physio, so can't see me doing all 3, and have emailed, phoned and explained it twice, still waiting on evidence to come back from everyone else, so not my fault, only to be told, the 26th is the date, attend or not, nice! thanks, have a nice day to you to,... lol