Petition to abolish the current Pip and ESA method of Assessment which isn't fit for purpose

KG100

And I'm sober !!

bigglesworth

The assessments should only be needed where no evidence from professionals/specialists is provided. Why pay a HCP to pad out the process when that money could be going to the claimants who need it. It should not be the case that a report of difficulties provided by a specialist can be overruled by an assessor in a completely different field.

A professional/specialist will likely have history with a claimant and will know a great deal more than an assessor can guess at with 15 minutes reading time for evidence (especially with complex conditions where there may be hundreds of pages of evidence) and then a 40 minute interview in an isolated environment with no proper record of what was said.

It's true that a HCP has nothing to gain from lying on a report. At the same time they likely get a lot less stress if instead of spending an hour putting together an accurate report, they instead spend 5 minutes duplicating the report from the previous claimant and then just edit a couple of words.

Gerald

ilovecats said:

Survivorgirl58 said:

I have Started a petition on
Change. Org.UK
Link to
http://chng.it/v76rwLSH

This petition is to abolish the current  Lima tick boxing yes/no method questions to of assessment, which doesn't take into account  or recognise those that are suffering with long term fluctuating debilitating often incurable illnesses./Conditions Like Ms, ME, fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue, Mental health and conditions and many more. 

Targeting the vulnerable and those not able to cope with the system and denying the very people that need the support. 

Long term recipients have been set upto fail!! 

The DWP Atos and Capita are lying in their reports to cut benefits, causing suffering to thousands which is having an adverse effect on people's mental health and wellbeing and this has to stop!!. 
And causing financial difficulties. 

People with invisible illnesses are being targeted its totally unacceptable! 

They are responsible for over 120 thousand deaths we have to fight back to change this. 

The British Government are failing the most vulnerable in SOCIETY! 
We are being demoralised, degraded and ignored. 

So please sign this petition and share with family and friends on social media. 

I need to get at least 100 thousand signatures so please also, if you have any further had a bad experience please write your experiences with Atos /Capita 
I will keep you updated 
Many thanks 
Surviour girl

I admire the drive but how would you assess people instead? It's all very well saying get rid of it but what should it be replaced with? If you could post the link to where you got the information about the 120 thousand deaths associated to PIP. I'd be very interested to read that. 

Hi ilovecats i see you put how would you assess people instead well there is one thing how about going back to the DWP doing the assessments them self like in the past and stop paying Atos and Capita as Atos don't have a good track recored after having to stop and this is from Atos so you can see top job there doing and that was in london so now we end up with them north and north west. 

It’s clear that Atos has no regret about washing its hands of this contract. The company was recently advised by a PR firm that it had extremely high brand recognition for all the wrong reasons. The company’s senior vice-president, Lisa Coleman, was asked during a select committee hearing a few months ago: “If you knew then what you know now, would you have bid for the contract in the first place?” She replied: “Quite honestly [...] probably not.” The rest of her answer indicated that the primary reason that Atos quit the contract and then there is this  quitting its five-year £400m contract early, paying to escape prematurely with a “substantial financial settlement” to the Department for Work and Pensions. (“Atos declared not fit for work,”

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DuffersMum

stejon said:

Hello iLovecats. Atos and capita assessors are liars. My mate had a brain hemorrhage and was found in his home unconscious and rushed to hospital had 3 brain operations and the hcp said in her assessment that it was diagnosed by a doctor and that he was sent to hospital and no treatment was needed. Is that not a lie?. And that's just one of the lies they have told. And these nurses work for the NHS, would you want a scumbag like this treating you or your family in hospital?.

I agree, some of them do lie, my report was full of lies and inaccuracies and it was quite clear from the first moment that her main concern was getting me out of her assessment room ASAP, I was in there 30 minutes at the most..my husband’s assessment (carried out at home) was the complete opposite...all comes down to who you get assessing you...

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poppy123456

stejon said:

You carry on believing that. If you was an assessor you  should know what goes on. And that's something I wouldn't  brag about.  You won't be popular on disability forums. Bye

@ilovecats has never hidden the fact that they used to be an assessor here on the forum and scope know this too. We are a friendly community and we welcome everyone.

As a community champion here on scope, if you don't like someones comments then we have an ignore feature that i'd advise you to use. This way you won't see that person's comments.

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poppy123456

@stejon may i ask where exactly was that stated here on the forum? because i can't actually see anything, unless of course i'm not looking properly. I can't actually see anything bad that was said by ilovecats.

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poppy123456

Like i stated in another thread, i've never had any problems, likewise to a lot of a other people.

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Ami2301

@stejon please be mindful of your comments towards other members of the community.

poppy123456

As my friend @Ami2301 has advised, please be mindful of your comments here.

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