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Severe disability premium

Not sure if this is in the right section. I am on income based ESA (support group) and get the enhanced disability premium and was on low rate DLA for care and mobility. I was told over the phone yesterday that I have been awarded PIP enhanced rate for both daily living and mobility. Do I have to make a claim for SDP or would I get it automatically added onto my ESA if I qualify for it? Thanks

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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Hi,

    The SDP isn't automatically paid because of the criteria that comes with it.

    To be eligible you must live alone or be classed as living alone and no one must be claiming carers allowance for looking after you. https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/severe-disability-premium

    If this is you, once your PIP is in payment then ring ESA and ask to fill out the IS10 form over the phone. Decision will most likely be made within 2 weeks of that call.

    Great news on the PIP too!

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  • Jaderwoman1Jaderwoman1 Member Posts: 6 Listener
    Hi 
    Please can you help. 
    I was working and paying ni contributions before I applied for esa and was put in a support group in 2013.I've been in the support group ever since. 
    I was told that I was on on contribution esa. 
    My letters say, your esa is based on you ni contributions and any additional money the law says you have to live on. 
    Your living allowance, 73.10
    Extra money because of a disability guarantee, 16.80
    Extra money because you are in a support group, 38.55
    Income and benefits 
    No money will be taken off your employment and support allowance 
    so your income related allowance is 128.45. 

    Please can you confirm that this surely is contribution esa with an income top up. 
    I live alone, I've just received 15.450 lump sum occupation pension and will be getting 98 pounds a week from this. I've sent all the information to the ESA. 
    I'm so worried that they will no longer give me my contribution part of my esa. 
    Look forward to hearing from you 


  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger

     It sounds like your ESA is Contributions based with an Income related top up but they do have a very strange way of wording those letters.

    If this is correct then you will lose the Income related top up (£16.80) per week.

    As your pension is £98 per week then this will also affect your Contributions based part (£111.65). Pension income of more than £85 a week, then the amount of benefit payable will be reduced by half of the excess.
    The excess is the difference between £85 and the actual pension income. This means that there's a difference of £13 for you, so your Contributions based ESA will also be reduced by £6.50 per week.

    Total deductions providing your ESA is Contributions based with an Income related top up is £23.30 per week.

    If your ESA is all Income Related then you'll lose £98 per week plus the savings you have which are over £6,000 will reduce it further by £1 for every £250 over that amount. Which is approximately £37 per week and will mean you won't receive any ESA because it will reduce to zero BUT this is only if your ESA is all Income Related.

    You will of course need to wait for the decision letter, which will tell you exactly what you'll receive, if anything.

    Also because of the lump sum you received all changes need to be reported so if you're claiming any housing benefit or council tax reduction then you need to report the changes to your local council.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • Jaderwoman1Jaderwoman1 Member Posts: 6 Listener
    Thank you so much for the information. I am not receiving any housing benefits or council tax. I am also on PIP middle rate for daily and middle rate for mobility. Thank you again. 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    No problem. May i also ask if you live alone or with a partner? Does anyone claim Carers allowance for looking after you?
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  • Jaderwoman1Jaderwoman1 Member Posts: 6 Listener
    I live alone and no one claims carers allowance for me... 

  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    I live alone and no one claims carers allowance for me... 

    This means that you should have been claiming the severe disability premium (SDP) in with your ESA (see link in my above comment) This is an extra £65.85 per week from 8th April 2019, less in previous years.

    You need to ring ESA and ask to claim the SDP and for it to be backdated to the date you qualified. May i ask how long you've been claiming PIP daily living? and were you claiming DLA mid/high rate care before that?

    It won't be paid in future payments because of your pension but it can definitely be backdated to the date you qualified.

    Also do be aware than once your Income Related ESA ends then you'll no longer be entitled to free NHS treatment. You can apply for the NHS low income scheme but your savings will go against you for this.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • Jaderwoman1Jaderwoman1 Member Posts: 6 Listener
    I was awarded PIP from December 2018. I'm 60 now so I was told I can now get free prescriptions. I thought I couldn't get any SDP... 
  • Jaderwoman1Jaderwoman1 Member Posts: 6 Listener
    I'm claiming middle care for day time and middle care for mobility. I didn't claim it earlier as I didn't know about it... 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    As you're over 60 then you're correct you'll still receive free prescriptions, as i didn't know your age.

    There's no such thing as middle rate of PIP, it's standard or Enhanced for both parts, which is daily living and mobility.

    You do qualify for the SDP from the start of your PIP daily living award because you live alone and no one claims carers allowance for looking after you. Ring ESA and ask to fill out the IS10 form over the phone. Also ask for it to be backdated to the start of your PIP award. As advised, it won't be paid in future payments because of your change of circumstances but £65 is per week from December 2018 is quite a lot of money.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • Jaderwoman1Jaderwoman1 Member Posts: 6 Listener
    Thank you so very much. Be well. 
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    You're welcome and you too.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • Adrian_ScopeAdrian_Scope Testing team Posts: 7,924

    Scope community team

    Great news on your PIP @Bruno78 and welcome to the community @Jaderwoman1! :)

    Thank you for all of your help here @poppy123456, it's very much appreciated. 
    Senior Community Partner
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  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Anytime @Adrian_Scope :)
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
  • Bruno78Bruno78 Member Posts: 38 Connected
    Do you still get the enhanced disability premium if you qualify for SDP, or does the SDP override that? Some of the websites about it are confusing
  • poppy123456poppy123456 Member Posts: 22,218 Disability Gamechanger
    Bruno78 said:
    Do you still get the enhanced disability premium if you qualify for SDP, or does the SDP override that? Some of the websites about it are confusing
    They are both totally different, with different criteria. EDP is paid automatically if claiming Income Related ESA. SDP isn't automatically paid and getting either doesn't override the other because you can claim them both, if you qualify. See the above link for eligibility criteria.
    Community champion and proud winner of the 2019 empowering others award. This award was given for supporting disabled people and their families for the benefit advice i have given to members here on the community.
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