LCWRA

Kayla24

First time on here, signed on for uc I'm March 2018 due to losin my job due to ill health, been sendin sick notes in since then, I've just been sent assement form July 2019 and awarded LCWRA, anyone no what if anything will be back dated to

poppy123456

Hi,

Great news. The LCWRA element of £336 will be backdated to the 4th month of your claim starting from when you sent in your first fit/sick note. This means that if the decision's definitely been made and it's LCWRA then that will be approximately 1 year of backdated money. Check your journal, because the decision letter will be uploaded on there.

Kayla24

Thank u, first signed on with UC on 21/3/2018 and gave sick note in then, didn't get forms till end of July 2019 and had letter put on journal 6th August sayin i had got LCWRA and they wud rite sayin when it was paid and if any back date, didn't think they back date it that far back, thank u for reply

poppy123456

I must admit that was a very quick decision time, from when you received the forms. I'm assuming this was your first work capability assessment?

Kayla24

Yes it was and I was dreading it after how long it took to fill form in, just waitin for letter off them to say when first payment starts. It says to ring if not heard off them in 7 days, thank u for helpin it's all so confusin

Adrian_Scope

Welcome to the community @Kayla24. 
I hope it doesn't take too long to receive your letter regarding payments, this will likely be uploaded to your journal. 

Kayla24

Thanks to guys that replied to my questions, update for u, got my backdate payment Friday, it wasn't backdated to when my first sick note was sent in August 2018, only had one month backdated, abit confused still after readin posts on here but at least it was something

poppy123456

HI,

I just looked at your other thread here. https://community.scope.org.uk/discussion/62676/lcwra#latest  it says you started sending in fit notes in March 2018? If this is correct then the 1 month backdated money is not correct and you need to speak to your case manager. Backdated money should be paid from the 4th month after you sent in your first fit note.

Kayla24

I'm goin to talk to my work coach cus this is so confusin, she is really nice but the payments section don't seem so nice, will c what she says, thank u, 

poppy123456

See link and scroll down to waiting period. https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/Universal_Credit_Work_Capability_Assessment

Kayla24

I've read so many different things and yes they all say same thing, will get my work coach to c if she can find out cus my anxiety and stress r threw  the roof at mo, grateful for ur replys 

Adrian_Scope

Hi @Kayla24. As long as there have been no gaps in your fit notes (not even a day), then it should be backdated to three full assessment periods after you first submitted a fit note. Please let us know how you get on with your work coach, although you might be better off phoning and speaking with you Case Manager as it is them that would deal with this. 

Kayla24

Just had update sayin 3month waitin period is always from when LCWRA was awarded, mine was awarded 20/3/19. 

poppy123456

That's most definitely not correct. The 3 month waiting period is from when you sent in your first fit note, providing there were no gaps in your fit notes. The link i posted above is correct.

I'd advise you to get some face to face advice from an agency near you.

Kayla24

I think I will have to as that statement was from the payment section. Thanks for support 

Adrian_Scope

Hi @Kayla24, as @poppy123456 said that's definitely incorrect. It's three months after the first fit note. In practice it's three full assessment periods so sometimes nearly 4 months, but it's definitely not from when you're awarded! Do you have a CAB near you or Welfare Rights?

Kayla24

I have CAB so will go there, I can't c why they r sayin it if it's not right. Thanks for support 

Chloe_Scope

Hi @Kayla24 and welcome to the community! I hope CAB were able to advise

Welshlad90

Hi I get the limited capability for work element of uc I get paid on the 5th every month. I've had a letter for my 12 month assessment for the 11th September can someone tell me now I've had a appointment for a assessment will I still get my limited capability payment on 5th September? Do they wait until assessment decision to decide weather you'll still get payments or not

poppy123456

Welshlad90 said:

Hi I get the limited capability for work element of uc I get paid on the 5th every month. I've had a letter for my 12 month assessment for the 11th September can someone tell me now I've had a appointment for a assessment will I still get my limited capability payment on 5th September? Do they wait until assessment decision to decide weather you'll still get payments or not

You will still received the LCW element until a decision's been made on your assessment.

Welshlad90

poppy123456 said:

Welshlad90 said:

Hi I get the limited capability for work element of uc I get paid on the 5th every month. I've had a letter for my 12 month assessment for the 11th September can someone tell me now I've had a appointment for a assessment will I still get my limited capability payment on 5th September? Do they wait until assessment decision to decide weather you'll still get payments or not

You will still received the LCW element until a decision's been made on your assessment.

So I will still get payment as normal on 5th september then?

poppy123456

Yes and continue to receive it until a decision's been made on the work capability assessment as advised.

marie222

hi @Kayla24 im just wondering if you got to the bottom of this as im in a very similar position to you and im very confused with it all 

Welshlad90

poppy123456 said:

Yes and continue to receive it until a decision's been made on the work capability assessment as advised.

Recieved my decision this morning and as expected passed my assessment

poppy123456

Welshlad90 said:

poppy123456 said:

Yes and continue to receive it until a decision's been made on the work capability assessment as advised.

Recieved my decision this morning and as expected passed my assessment

Great news!

poppy123456

marie222 said:

hi @Kayla24 im just wondering if you got to the bottom of this as im in a very similar position to you and im very confused with it all 

Hi,

I answered your question on your other thread here https://community.scope.org.uk/discussion/64109/lcwra-backdated#latest

Kayla24

Hi marie222, I'm still trying to sort mine, it's been sent to decision maker now so still waiting x

Adrian_Scope

Great news @Welshlad90.

Welshlad90

If the health assessor recommends my next assessment not be for another 18 months is the dwp likely to go with that?

poppy123456

Welshlad90 said:

If the health assessor recommends my next assessment not be for another 18 months is the dwp likely to go with that?

That's impossible to answer i'm afraid. Some go over, some are contacted before the recommended time. The time given is just a guide, you can be reassessed anytime from 3 months.

christiantayleure4

Hi after having your letter saying your going to get the extra lcwra payment how long does it take to get your first payment

Welshlad90

christiantayleure4 said:

Hi after having your letter saying your going to get the extra lcwra payment how long does it take to get your first payment

Its usually on your next UC payment 

christiantayleure4

Oh as it's been few months since I got the letter and I ain't received it yet 

Welshlad90

You need to ring them up then and ask why and remind them if there is any backdated payments due 

Welshlad90

Please keep us posted

christiantayleure4

I'll just leave it I can't be bothered to be on the phone to them constantly because of there **** ups 

Welshlad90

christiantayleure4 said:

I'll just leave it I can't be bothered to be on the phone to them constantly because of there **** ups 

If the letter states you will be receiving lwcra you need to contact them by phone or your online journal or go to your local job centre as you could be missing out on £336 a month

poppy123456

christiantayleure4 said:

Hi after having your letter saying your going to get the extra lcwra payment how long does it take to get your first payment

Hi,

There's a 3 month waiting period from the time you sent in your first fit note. Then the LCWRA element is paid on the 4th full assessment period. So, it will totally depend on when you sent in your first fit note and when your assessment period is from.

christiantayleure4

My first sick note was sent in on 2nd of may 2019 so does that mean it should be paid in on this month

poppy123456

When is your assessment period from?

phoeiblaze

@christiantayleure4

They start back payment on the 4th month from your claim. Example: you made claim in February so timeline goes as follows: . 

Month 1. February to March

Month 2.  March to April
Month 3. April to May
Month 4. May to June (backdate starts)

You won’t get a letter stating what your back payment is. They don’t do that even though letter award letter says it. Calculate the time you are owed back payment as you haven’t said when you made the claim. 

If after calculating, and you are still short, ring them as they may have missed a payment. They did miss one of mines (first payment as system didn’t factor it in) and I called them and the lady I spoke to checked it, saw it was missing and promised to get in in my bank account in a few hours. It was sent an hour later with a note in my UC journal saying it as well. 

phoeiblaze

@christiantayleure4

you can hand in sick notes for a year....they won’t backdate until the claim was made and waiting period has passed 

poppy123456

@phoeiblaze i'm sorry but that's not correct. The first sick note wasn't sent until 2nd May, which means it doesn't start from February. The waiting period is 3 months from when the first sick note was sent. If given LCWRA then it's paid from the 4th complete assessment period after your first sick note was sent, which means it totally depends on when the assessment period is.

This is a complete random example.. a claimant has 3 AP periods between 21st June and 20th September. LCWRA element would start from AP 21st September to 20th October, so the extra element would be received in the October payment.

Adrian_Scope

Hi @christiantayleure4, I hope this answers your query, but if you have anything else you want to know, please don't hesitate to ask.

Poppy: I think you and phoeiblaze might be saying the same thing. I believe phoeiblaze was using February as an example to explain how it works, rather than trying to say that's when it would start for christiantayleure4.

phoeiblaze

@Adrian_Scope @poppy123456

Lol yup Adrian. I didn't  see when he made the claim itself, only when he put in sick notes.

Poppy: I used my own claim period as an example which is why I said 'Example' in my posting so he can get an idea if how to calculate.